Would you agree that the Father and the Word are uncreated spirit beings of the same type?

I agree.

Would you agree that they are of a different type to the created spirit beings?

Yes.

But the Son / Word was begotten,

God wasn’t begotten. He has always been.

God > Word / Son > Creation.

Pretender, since you refused to honor the previous question by producing any scripture that makes it explicitly clear that the days in Gen 1 are anything other than regular 24 hour days (each with a single morning and a single evening, and equated to literal days by God Himself in Ex 20:11 and 31:17), I will accept this refusal as a direct answer…

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Proclaimer, would you like me to directly address your sun challenge again? Or would you like some time to let my moon cartoon sink in first?

Moon cartoon clearly debunked.

Yes, show me an instance where the sun has set and then bring it back again.

Just like those boats that have set so to speak and are brought back.

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BTW, when are you going to bring back the sun?

If I was a flattie, my inability to do that would make me seriously think about my belief.

Not you it seems.

Good question Gene.

But you know that Mike will have your post deleted because this is a private discussion.

Could I suggest you post that in the FE topic or even better, start up a Hot Seat discussion with him to force an answer from him.

2.  Name the something that is IN the raqia.

God called the expanse – heaven and God dwells in heaven.

The Hebrew word for firmament is “raqia”.  The Hebrew word for heaven is “shamayim”.

Now for your next step.

And God called the raqia shamayim.

It’s in Genesis 1:8 which is scripture.

Believe it or not.

But your decision doesn’t change the reality of it being scripture.

The Hebrew word for firmament is “raqia”.  The Hebrew word for heaven is “shamayim”.

Now for your next step.

And God called the raqia shamayim.

It’s in Genesis 1:8 which is scripture.

Believe it or not.

But your decision doesn’t change the reality of it being scripture.

There are a number of explanations.

1. The waters are above heaven can mean that they are above God because He dwells IN heaven. But not likely. So why are you not making that argument when you pretty much do it elsewhere. IN, ABOVE, BELOW is what you are saying. So be consistent and place your God below the waters.
2. He has a Babylonian…

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But as far as I know, there just isn’t enough info in the Bible to definitively tell what they really did know about the world.

Same goes for you Mike.

How can you seriously say that clouds are IN the sky… but also the waters that are ABOVE the sky?

There are three layers of heaven or three heavens.

There is a separation of the waters and the top layer is above the raqia that exists between the waters.

Water Above

Expanse / Sky / Space

Water Below

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I think you’re getting confused because God NAMED the firmament “heaven”.  Raqia doesn’t actually MEAN “heaven”.  That is a different Hebrew word.

So when the Bible talks of three different heavens, it is not talking about three different raqias.  There is still only one of those, and it is the second of the three different heavens.

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YOU and I, and many other videos,  you have posted, have shown him hundreds of proof that his “flat earth” bs,  is wrong, and is being proven constantly wrong by “true” science every single day,  for all to see for themselves. He refuses to accept he is wrong, no matter how much proof is given him.

That’s right gene.

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More corrections for Mike

Mike:
Wait… are you saying that if the light source moves behind the cloud/haze layer that you can clearly see in your photo (or even behind a mountain or some other tangible obstruction) we should still be able to see the reflections from that light source on the water?

Nope.

Here in NZ we are surrounded by thousands o…[Read more]

Ooh look, they are living upside down
But what would happen if you turned the camera around? The right way up yes?

But let’s imagine that the space station could indeed drill down to people swimming upside down. In reality, it would just look like what you see on Google Earth. An aerial shot.

Lol. Another successful debunk. Team Flat Earth loses…[Read more]

#bringbackthesunmike

God is Spirit  do perhaps as The Word who was with God, he may have been a Spirit too. And becsuse all creation came from God through The Word, then maybe he took a body thereafter. I’m speculating.

The Bible does not teach that the Earth is flat. The Bible says that the Sun rises and goes down, not round in a big circle under a dome. There is no dome. The firmament is the open expanse of heaven wherein birds fly according to Gen.1:20. No dome, no flat Earth just a beautiful, glorious globe, the way God made it according to the laws of…[Read more]

They shut down my thread on the BioLogos website last week.  It went like this…

Good job.

While this site allows your nonsense it doesn’t mean that you can go there and ruin their reputation.

This site allows your nonsense because it is here to find the truth and expose the lies.

Whereas, that website probably has a different mi…[Read more]

WHICH YOU DENY!
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Alpha and Omega – Revelation 1:8; 22:13
The Almighty – Revelation 1:8

These two for a start.

It clearly says that the Lord God is speaking here. Not his Son.