Quote (david @ Aug. 13 2013,20:56)Quote (abe @ Aug. 14 2013,15:07)Quote (david @ Aug. 13 2013,17:51)Interesting thread. I'd like to point out that the bible doesn't use words like polytheism or monotheism.  This discussion would be quite different if we removed these trigger fear words from the discussion.  These words carry baggage.Hi D…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 13 2013,17:51)Interesting thread. I'd like to point out that the bible doesn't use words like polytheism or monotheism.  This discussion would be quite different if we removed these trigger fear words from the discussion.  These words carry baggage.Hi David,Idol·a·ter noun \ī-ˈdä-lə-tər\ Definition of IDOLATER1: a wors…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2013,15:39)Quote (abe @ Aug. 12 2013,12:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2013,08:10)Abe,I'm still waiting for your DIRECT answer about Gen 3:5 and 3:22.  Do you believe the gods to whom Satan referred in 3:5 are the “one of us” to whom Jehovah referred in 3:22?  YES or NO?Hi Mike,That is a Silly question to ask a C…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 13 2013,09:55)Terricca……….If you notice it was The OWNER of the Vineyard that went out and Hired them , but in your religion belief you hire yourself you create your own vineyard and go to work in it yourself. That is the Problem here you believe your Choices being about you salvation , but Just as the Parable you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 12 2013,15:55)Quote (2besee @ Aug. 12 2013,17:47)How many Gods are there to you?A) There is only one God.B) There are two Gods.C) There are three Gods.D) There are many Gods.Only answer A, B, C, or D, without adding or changing anything such as caps.Oh………… in that case I'm a letter A.Hi Mike,(Quote)Oh……………[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Aug. 12 2013,14:13)So, let us revisit the OP.This is the understanding that has been gained so far, and I think that the original OP needs to have some adjusting!Quote OP:Quote Mike believe one LU believes two WJ believes three EdJ believes fourSo now:Gene believes one GodMarty believes one God2besee believes one GodLU believes two…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2013,08:10)Abe,I'm still waiting for your DIRECT answer about Gen 3:5 and 3:22.  Do you believe the gods to whom Satan referred in 3:5 are the “one of us” to whom Jehovah referred in 3:22?  YES or NO?Hi Mike,That is a Silly question to ask a Christian.Peace….

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2013,08:56)t8 and All,The reason I try so hard to get you guys to see and understand the many scriptural examples of gods is because John 1:1 is a very pivotal scripture.The commonly accepted (although absurd) translation of that verse is, The Word was with God, and the Word was God.Our one and only Most High God cannot…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2013,07:56)Quote (abe @ Aug. 09 2013,22:58)The Archangels must have a  Soul.   God has a soul.I don't think angels have souls? They cant die until the end.“Arche” just means “ruler” in the case of “archangel”.  How can you conclude that only the ruler-angels have souls, but the other spirit sons of God don't?  That doe…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2013,07:56)Quote (abe @ Aug. 09 2013,22:58)The Archangels must have a  Soul.   God has a soul.I don't think angels have souls? They cant die until the end.“Arche” just means “ruler” in the case of “archangel”.  How can you conclude that only the ruler-angels have souls, but the other spirit sons of God don't?  That doe…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Aug. 10 2013,02:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2013,11:23)Quote (2besee @ Aug. 09 2013,01:33)Abe,I can see a connection in something:He stationed the *cherubim* and the flaming *sword* which turned every direction to guard the *way* to the *Tree* of *life*I am the *way* the truth and the *life*. Nobody comes to the Father but…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 09 2013,13:59)Quote (abe @ Aug. 09 2013,00:44)I think cherubim and Archangel mean the same.I don't know that to be the case, but there doesn't seem to be any scriptural evidence prohibiting it.   But should we assume things in scripture just because there is nothing explicitly prohibiting it?  Or should we remain silent i…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Aug. 08 2013,23:33)Abe,I can see a connection in something:He stationed the *cherubim* and the flaming *sword* which turned every direction to guard the *way* to the *Tree* of *life*I am the *way* the truth and the *life*. Nobody comes to the Father but through me.Revelation  19:11 I saw the heaven opened, and behold, a white…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2013,16:40)Quote (abe @ Aug. 07 2013,20:27)Hi Mike,Gen.3:5   “For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”I don't see the word gods? Go to the interlinear.I'm well aware that the word “elohim” in 3:5 could be translated as “God” or as “g…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 05 2013,16:20)Mikewhat puzzels me is that within abe; quote “he tells you to take your head out of your asse but he also end his quote with a peace message ;???it looks like a guy that first slaped your face with his fist then quickly handing out his hand as a peace gesture ,WHAT A CONTRADITION IN HIS MINDBTW, Abe was only…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 07 2013,15:13)The bolded part is well said, Pierre.Abe, all you've done is list even more scriptures that speak of other gods, and Jehovah's instructions to the Israelites to not invoke their names like those other nations do.Jehovah didn't refute the existence of the gods of the other nations.  He just said not to call…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 06 2013,23:59)AbeSo you say ,the Breath is Not the Spirit ,so what is the Spirit And why is it associated with the Breath in Gen 7:22 Hi T,7307. ruachruach: breath, wind, spiritOriginal Word: ר֫וּחַPart of Speech: Noun FeminineTransliteration: ruachPhonetic Spelling: (roo'-akh)Short Definition: spiritWord Originfrom an…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 06 2013,17:30)Quote (abe @ Aug. 07 2013,05:08)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 05 2013,11:44)Quote (abe @ Aug. 05 2013,11:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,07:26)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,11:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,03:59)Quote (2besee @ Aug. 03 2013,05:32)The one and the same spirit is called:The Spirit of God,The…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2013,17:26)Eddy's been falling hard since I've known him.    But I still love him.BTW, Abe was only quoting what I said.  Unfortunately, I'm the one who told them to pull their heads out of their butts.     Those were my words, not his.I apologize to all for that angry outburst.  It was uncalled for, and said only…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 05 2013,11:44)Quote (abe @ Aug. 05 2013,11:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,07:26)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,11:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,03:59)Quote (2besee @ Aug. 03 2013,05:32)The one and the same spirit is called:The Spirit of God,The Holy Spirit,The Eternal Spirit,The Spirit of Christ,The Spirit of the…[Read more]