Is 1:18 wrote:Quote Hi WIT,In addressing a lot of points you raised in your post I would just be recycling and emphasising previous statements I have made. I don't think arguing in circles is going to be productive for either of us, and I have said all I think I need to, so I’ll leave those matters as they are…Agreed.  We can get off the me…[Read more]

ADDENDUM (to my last post):Is 1:18 wrote:Quote …you and I both know that it’s not possible to make absolutely dogmatic assertions about the true meaning of the references to the  “One God” where it’s not abundantly clear whether Yahshua or The Father is the subject. There is no verse in the Bible that explicitly states that God is a uni-pers…[Read more]

Is 1:18 wrote:Quote Hi WIT, sorry it's taken me a while to respond, hard to find the time to sit down, collect and annotate my thoughts atm. I'm also working on several posts concurrently, which doesn't help. Hope this finds you well.I have been busy as well, so I understand completely.  If it had been more than a week, and you were posting to…[Read more]

Is 1:18 wrote:Quote I’m stunned. You wrote something to me that vaguely resembled a friendly remark….. We are on starkly different sides of a debate.  As a result, I have probably been less than “friendly” in my tone towards you in the past.  If you have found that to be the case, then I apologize.  Earnest debate does not have to be acri…[Read more]

Is 1:18 wrote:Quote Quote  1 Timothy 6:13″I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate… .”You have said in the past the “trinity model” fits scripture best.  Does it fit this scripture best?  What does your logic tell you? He he….If this one ve…[Read more]

Is 1:18 wrote:Quote Something to think about: Do we actually know that every reference to YHWH in the OT was actually a reference to The Father? I don't think this could be true. Especially considering there are numerous occasions where YHWH spoke to men, was seen by them and even ate with them. Yet Jesus and Paul wrote:John 5:37″And the Father…[Read more]

Is 1:18,Please don't use your ignorance of Hebrew literary devices as a prooftext for your “multiple YHWHs” theory.  YHWH is one in number, as proclaimed in Deuteronmy 6:4.1 Kings 8:1 saysQuote Now Solomon assembled the elders of Israel and all the heads of the tribes, the chief fathers of the children of Israel, to King Solomon in Jerusalem,…[Read more]

Nick wrote:Quote Hi WIT,Did any question his sonship to Joseph while he lived? Yes.Now, can you do me the courtesy of answering my question?  Here it is for the fifth or sixth time:Quote Did the prophets get it right or wrong?  Is Messiah the “fruit of David's body”, or is Messiah not related to David at all?

Quote MARK 12:35-37And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the Son of David? For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And the…[Read more]

Maclom wrote:Quote JOHN 8:23And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.Now who and what and where was he of? this world?, David?, God? Malcolm,Were the people that Messiah was talking to literally from beneath?(Read John 6:41-59.  In the gospel of John, I believe that Messiah speaks…[Read more]

Nick wrote:Quote Hi WIT,Who is the father of Jesus Christ?Romans 1:1-4Quote Paul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God which He promised before through His prophets in the Holy Scriptures, concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, and declare…[Read more]

Nick wrote:Quote As you know Christ was the secret hidden from men till he partook of flesh and was revealed as the Son of God.. Actually, I don't know that, because that is not what I believe scripture teaches.  The scriptures that I have read prophecy about the Messiah, in detail, (including that he must suffer), and says that he will be the…[Read more]

Nick,You are still dodging.Nick wrote:Quote Would you argue with God that Jesus was not truly His Son?That is brave I must say.That is slander at its worst Nick.  Where have I ever said that Yashua was not the Son of YHWH?The prophets gave us a picture ahead of time of who the Messiah would be.  If a person did not fulfill these prophecies, he c…[Read more]

Nick,You continue to give me your personal opinions, without any basis in scripture.  You are dodging the question.  Here it is again:Quote Search the scriptures, Nick.  Whose literal son was Messiah prohesied to be?  YHWH's or David's?  You have been shown mountains of evidence that he had to be David's literal son, “the fruit of his body” (Act…[Read more]

Nick,While you wait for malcolm ferris to answer your questions, I would be interested to see you answer the questions put to you on page 8 of this discussion.

Nick wrote:Quote The alternative seems to be to say the God is not the father of Jesus Christ…Scripture is not broken here.  On the contrary, (as Ramblinrose points out), 1 Chronicles 28:6 shows how YHWH is Yashua's father:”…I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father.”Solomon is the archetype.  Yashua is the ultimate f…[Read more]

Nick,I don't think that you have answered RamblinR's question.2 Samuel 7 says:Quote 8 Now therefore, thus shall you say to My servant David, ‘Thus says of hosts: “I took you from the sheepfold, from following the sheep, to be ruler over My people, over Israel. 9 And I have been with you wherever you have gone, and have cut off all your ene…[Read more]

David,You wrote:Quote No, I do not believe animals die because of inherited sin.But, you believe that we do?By the way, you skipped over my question about Romans 5:19, yet again.  It is:”Will all be made righteous?  If not, why not?“

David,You wrote:Quote I'm certainly not saying that being born means we “deserve” the second death.(I'm not sure “deserve” is the right word, even for the death that everyone suffers because of Adam.  Do animals deserve to die?  Yet they all do.  Did they do anything to deverse this?)Why do you ask?I ask because it shows your understanding of “i…[Read more]

David,You wrote:Quote So in answer to your question:”Does that mean we are NOW ALL righteous?  If not, why not?”The answer: Because the Bible doesn't say so.  It says: “will be.”  That's why.Thanks for correcting my verb tense.  Let me rephrase the question:Will all be made righteous?  If not, why not?You wrote:Quote Yes, the point I was maki…[Read more]