Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 08 2013,23:15)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2013,10:43)2BeseeIf we can not sin,we will be as Jesus,we **WONT NEED*             FORGIVENESS OF SIN.  For we are clean.wakeup.Hi Wakeup, “And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.  I came not to call the righteous, but sinners…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 08 2013,23:09)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2013,10:43)2Besee.Thank you for all those scriptures.Basically it is this what you should concentrate on.If you are born of God; you **CAN NOT SIN**.   do you really blieve that you CAN NOT SIN? Be honest.wakeup.Hi Wakeup, “He that is begotten of God keepeth himself,  and that wicked one t…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,00:28)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 09 2013,00:09)Abe.The scriptures are in the whole old testament,and the new.What I was explaining to you was the whole picture.1. God came through Moses to introduce HIS WOMAN.2. she was refused  by israel.3. God send his son through this woman. (born).4. He introduced this woman to his…[Read more]

Lets not ignore Gods words:He said; mans wisdom is foolishness to God ,and Gods wisdom is foolishness to man.God has given us the names of all adams grand children up to Noah, and from Noah to Abraham,and from Abraham to Jesus.God says that the new world started in Babel with Nimrod grand son of Cush as the first king.Scientist say man started in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2013,00:08)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2013,23:53)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 08 2013,23:01)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2013,11:16)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2013,11:23)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,10:56)EdJ.What is that you teach, that doctrine with the numbers?Was that written by the apostles,or some other?wakeup.Hi Wakeup, Do you consider…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Feb. 08 2013,16:39)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,20:34)Quote (abe @ Feb. 08 2013,15:07)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,17:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,12:00)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,18:09)Mike B.You must think spiritually,not physically regarding this woman.This kind of comment doesn't help anyone, Wakeup.  Surely you don't…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 08 2013,23:01)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 08 2013,11:16)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2013,11:23)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,10:56)EdJ.What is that you teach, that doctrine with the numbers?Was that written by the apostles,or some other?wakeup.Hi Wakeup, Do you consider “Barnabas” to be an Apostle(sent one)?  (ref. Acts 13:4)God blessEd J EDJ.…[Read more]

Hi 2Besee.You agreed that we can only be born 2x.1. Our natural birth.2. Our spiritual birth.Now we can start from here.This only means that there is no other physical births in between.There is though a renewing of the mind,a coversion of thinking. And that is the mind of Christ.We have left behind us the old thinking of the world.That is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,12:27)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,18:56)How many children and grand children can be born in the space of 100 yrs?Read Gen 5, Wakeup.  The youngest any father was when he begot the “mentioned” son was 65 years old.  Most of them were over 100 when they begot the “mentioned” son.Is there any reason to think the “…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ Feb. 08 2013,15:07)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,17:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,12:00)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,18:09)Mike B.You must think spiritually,not physically regarding this woman.This kind of comment doesn't help anyone, Wakeup.  Surely you don't believe that I think the nation of Israel is PHYSICALLY a woman,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,12:14)Actually Wakeup,The scripture explicitely says that AFTER Seth, they had other sons and daughters.For you and Pierre:Read Genesis 5 and tell me if you believe the child mentioned to each parent was their firstborn son.  I do.(Btw, I believe David was the 8th son of Jesse, and we are told he was the youngest.…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 01 2013,12:42)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 01 2013,09:34)Mike B.Gene said that we ought not worship Jesus.On the contrary; we must worship Jesus,for he is God,his WORD.How can you NOT worship Gods WORD,and say you are worshipping God?How can you say ;you are worshipping God but not.follow his commandments,his WORD?The word is as Holy…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2013,12:19)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 31 2013,20:03)EDJ.I am saying that he is part of God.No, he is the Son of God.Mike B.He was not the Son before he was made flesh,but the word of God.wakeup.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,12:33)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,18:56)What about Cain and his wife, and the others that cain was afraid of?Well, presumably, since Cain thought being banished to Nod was an unbearable punishment, it was not a good place to be.  So my question is WHY there were “others” already in the land of Nod, that Cain had…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,12:00)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,18:09)Mike B.You must think spiritually,not physically regarding this woman.This kind of comment doesn't help anyone, Wakeup.  Surely you don't believe that I think the nation of Israel is PHYSICALLY a woman, right?  So I would have to be thinking spiritually, or at the very l…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 07 2013,14:02)Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 07 2013,05:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2013,10:51)I wouldn't say it was the ONLY logical interpretation, Ed.  But it surely is A logical one.I'm feeling that there is something more about that moon.  I will pray on it.And what about the twelve stars?  Tribes of Israel?  Or Apo…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,11:09)Quote (david @ Feb. 05 2013,19:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 29 2011,12:38)WHY were there already “others” out there in the land of Nod, living away from God's presence?MikeThis is the problem :The bible doesn't say there were others out there in the land of nod living away from Gods presence.  This is assumed…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 07 2013,13:35)Do you consider “Barnabas” to be an Apostle(sent one)?  (ref. Acts 13:4)EDJ.yes; but not of the 12 that Jesus has chosen.wakeup.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 08 2013,10:31)Quote (Devolution @ Feb. 07 2013,06:48)This has reminded me NOT to consider something complete hastily just because the picture was revealed……….See?  There is a method to my madness after all.  There is a valid reason for me taking this discussion one small point at a time – almost at a snail's pace.  …[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 08 2013,09:54)Wakeup,Sorry for this long post.Continued….Quote 3. What is the difference between born of God and begotten of God?There is no difference in the words “born of God” and “begotten of God”. It is the same word used in each of the biblical occurrences, and it is the Greek word “Gennáō”There is another word…[Read more]