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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2013,11:05)What would make me happy, dear Wakeup, is for you to either ANSWER some of the points I've been making, or just stop talking altogether.Let's deal with this latest “point” you keep trying to make first:Psalm 146:6He is the Maker of heaven and earth, the sea, and everything in them…….Does this psalm teach…[Read more]

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    The NWO will only have power for one hour.Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and *ten horns*, and upon his horns *ten crowns*, and upon his heads the name of *blasphemy*. 7HEADS: EGYPT/ASSYRIA/BABYLON/MEDO PERSIA/GREECE/ROME(6TH)_—END TIME ROME(7TH)—- NWO/8TH.WITH…[Read more]

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    Marty.The 7trumpts comes first.The *last* trump will be the coming/appearing.The 6th trump will be the gathering of the armies.Both opposite sides will come together to make war with the Lamb. The 7th trump would be the finish.Armageddon will only take one day.Babylon will be destroyed in one day.wakeup.

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    Wakeup replied to the topic No one could answer him in the forum Faith 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 07 2013,03:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2013,02:24)I believe there exist many lords and many gods………. of whom Jehovah is the Most High.So are you saying that Jehovah is THE SUPREME BEING?If so then HE would be th only one with the right to be called God, I can't imagine why this is so difficult for you to believe.…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Oct. 07 2013,06:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2013,12:09)There is a “HE was with God in the beginning”, right?Now, please explain to me how the Word “pertains to” Jesus, but isn't really Jesus.  Because what you've posted above doesn't explain anything to me about how you're understanding this “pertains to” stuff.Hi Mike:Most of…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2013,02:42)No, I disagree, Wakeup.1.  ALL THINGS were created by Jehovah, right?  That means Jehovah Himself was created by Jehovah, right?2.  ALL THINGS were placed at the feet of Jesus, right?  That means Jehovah Himself was placed at the feet of Jesus, right?These two are equivalent to the questions you are ask…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 06 2013,23:14)Wakeup,I have done two walkthroughs of my reasoning and expect you to use reason and do the same.  I also expect you to address them with using a well reasoned argument.Kerwin>Use logic,The *Word was spirit* made flesh.How can the Reward be a *lesser body* than previously,when He was spirit? Was that his reward…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 06 2013,16:07)Wakeup,Please work at understanding my words better.  The flesh and bone of angels is not human flesh and bone. Angels may not even have bone.   Angels are do not marry nor are they given in marriage so any child angel was made in that form by God and not conceived of a female angel.  There is definite words in…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2013,11:56)Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 05 2013,11:17)That only means that there is God,and his first creature his *spokesman*.doing all the work.Read Proverbs 8, Wakeup.  Jesus was the “craftsman at God's side”.  Also read 1 Cor 8:6, where we learn that all things are FROM God, and THROUGH Jesus.God, ALONE and BY HIMSELF, c…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 06 2013,12:43)Wakeup,Matthew 22:30   For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. andMark 12:25   For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.andLuke 20:36   Neither can they di…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Oct. 06 2013,02:13)Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 05 2013,11:42)Quote (942767 @ Oct. 05 2013,11:18)Hi:I watched this video on YouTube today, and I was  going to post it, but I see that it is already here and being discussed.  I just want to say that I agree with these two guys that there is no “secret rapture”, and that the church will be h…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2013,02:21)No Wakeup.  The Word has never been God Almighty Himself.  “The Word” is simply a title for God's main spokesman, who happens to also be God's firstborn and only begotten Son.He has never been God Himself.  He has always been the first creation God ever made.He was with God Almighty in the beginning – as a se…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 06 2013,01:11)Wakeup,You wrote too much for me to answer at one time.  I will answer your first point using Scripture as you did.  Quote Matthew 16:27   For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.IT IS NOT THE WORKS THAT WILL BE JU…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 06 2013,00:16)Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 04 2013,18:38)Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 04 2013,22:38)This is a conversation involving me and Mike after the late spun off a new line of conversation based on some of Wakeup's words.Quote What do you say, Kerwin?  Are Satan and his angels flesh beings?  Were the demons who possessed human beings f…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Oct. 05 2013,11:18)Hi:I watched this video on YouTube today, and I was  going to post it, but I see that it is already here and being discussed.  I just want to say that I agree with these two guys that there is no “secret rapture”, and that the church will be here during the great tribulation, but my understanding is that the c…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 05 2013,02:42)To All………..Demons are Spirits (intellects) that can inter any Body and effect it in adverse ways, the can completely take over it and control it and Speak through it.  Demons are not angels IMO, Just as not spirit is and angel of a human being that are what is “IN” angels and Human being. Spirit is…[Read more]

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    THE SCRIPTURES SEEN THROUGH KERWWIN'S EYES. Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.IT IS NOT THE WORKS THAT WILL BE JUDGED. BUT THE SPIRIT.(kerwin).Matthew 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 04 2013,22:38)This is a conversation involving me and Mike after the late spun off a new line of conversation based on some of Wakeup's words.Quote What do you say, Kerwin?  Are Satan and his angels flesh beings?  Were the demons who possessed human beings flesh beings themselves?  They were called “spirits” after all, ri…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 04 2013,22:16)This is a conversation between Wakeup and myself continued from the who is the word thread.Quote As I have said.Your stumbling block is the appearing of Jesus in the flesh.I believe your stumbling block is that you fail to understand the idiom's of the time in which the New Testiment was wrote and for your own…[Read more]

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    Quote (keras @ Oct. 04 2013,18:21)Can you not see that God's true righteous people are not just Jews? Some are, but most are Christians who have put their trust in the Lord Jesus and keep His commandments. Ephesians 2:1-18 makes this crystal clear. There will be 12,000 from the tribe of Judah, but the rest of the 144,000 are still scattered around…[Read more]

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