Messiah? The word is 'moshiach' (the closest english), and can be found many times in the Jewish bible. Here are some instances (from the KJV)1Sa 24:6  And he said unto his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the LORD'S anointed ('moshiach'), to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 24 2007,18:18)Quote (Samuel @ Oct. 24 2007,17:39)PRAISE GOD…THANK YOU JESUS…OH THANK YOU JESUS FOR NOT COMING DOWN OFF THAT CROSS…THANK YOU JESUS THANK YOU JESUS!  Glory! the enemy has been defeated …Victory in the LORD JESUS CHRIST…the Living Christ…the Perfect LAMB.  There is Power in the Blood of the l…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Oct. 24 2007,17:35)Hmm…I\'d like to say that you had better figure out some way to believe in Jesus Christ…Cause thats the only way your going to get to GOD.Can you show me such in the Jewish bible? G-d never told the children that they would ever have to believe in a man to have a relationship with him. In fact, the children…[Read more]

What happened to the guards?Mat 28:1  In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.Mat 28:2  And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. M…[Read more]

What day did Jesus die? According to the synoptic gospels, on the Passover (15th of Nissan). But according to John, he died on the eve of Passover (14th of Nissan). How do you reconcile these accounts?We know this because the synoptics have Jesus eating the Passover Seder with his disciples on the evening before his death. However, John has the…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 24 2007,15:57)Hi Towshab:I believe that Jesus is the Christ because the Spirit of God dwells with in me testifying to the effect that God is a reality and that His testimony relative to His Son and His Christ is true.That is a heartfelt answer, and sincere. But why should you think then that a Muslim, Mormon, Buddhist, or Hari…[Read more]

Another failure on the part of JesusMal 4:5  Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: Mal 4:6  And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.But did Jesus do what Mal 4:6 says? O…[Read more]

Both Matthew AND Luke include Shealtiel and Zerubbabel in their geneologies, both of the bloodline of Jeconiah. Since Jeconiah's bloodline was cursed to never sit on the throne of David, then both genealogies are disqualified. Thus, Jesus CANNOT be the Jewish Messiah.1Ch 3:17  And the sons of Jeconiah were Assir, Shealtiel his son,

Quote (david @ Oct. 24 2007,16:08)Quote Verse 30 says that no one of Jeconiah's bloodline can sit on the throne of David. So if Matthew inlcudes him, then the genealogy is invalid.Why?Jer 22:30 Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 24 2007,16:03)Yes, as I had said:Luke’s genealogy of Jesus as compared with Matthew’s is quickly resolved in the fact that Luke traced the line through David’s son Nathan, instead of Solomon as did Matthew. (Lu 3:31; Mt 1:6, 7) Luke evidently follows the ancestry of Mary, thus showing Jesus’ NATURAL descent from David, while…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 24 2007,16:00)Quote 3) Jeconiah and any of his offspring have been disqualified from the throne of David (Jer 22:28-30). Matthew includes this wicked king in Jesus' genealogy.Not sure what you're saying here.  do you think he was actually “childless”?While in Babylon, Jehoiachin fathered seven sons. (1Ch 3:16-18) In this way…[Read more]

Sorry, this board seems to do weird stuff with posts.

Quote (david @ Oct. 24 2007,15:37)Why does Matthew leave out some names that are contained in the listings of the other chroniclers? First of all, to prove one’s genealogy it was not necessary to name every link in the line of descent. For example, Ezra, in proving his priestly lineage, at Ezra 7:1-5, omitted several names contained in the listing…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 24 2007,15:47)Quote )1. The Messiah must be from the lineage of David. Since Joseph is not the biological father, this genealogy is invalid.Ok, I noticed you didn't read my post.  Yep.  I just read your second statement.  That is also covered.  Please read my post.Now you just have to address # 3

David,Even if Luke's genealogy was through Mary (1) kingship bloodline is not established through the mother (2) the bloodline must go through Solomon and (3) Luke does not say it is through Mary.Luk 3:23 Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, Nothing about…[Read more]

OK, here's a start:Matthew has three problems with the genealogy of Jesus:1) The Messiah must be from the lineage of David. Since Joseph is not the biological father, this genealogy is invalid.2) Matthew makes a big deal of three sets of 14 generations. But in order to do so, he leaves out some people in the bloodline. Also, there are only 13 in…[Read more]