Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 27 2007,14:25)Galations 1:6-9I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel – which is really no gospel at all.Evidently, some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ……let him be eternally…[Read more]

On to the next problem with Matthew and his poor scholarship. Or is it actually an unconscious revelation that Jesus is not the Messiah? Using the Apostles Bible (it uses the Septuagint for 'old testament').Mat 2:6 'But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you shall come forth a Ruler…[Read more]

No, I'm just trying to say that where Christians can take Jewish scripture and try to read Jesus into them, I can do the same but in a negative connotation. Therefore, all of the supposedly fulfilled prophecies can be countered with negative prophecies.

Still in the first chapter of Matthew, and we hit yet another snag.Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.Of course most scholars realize that Is 7:14 was not 'virgin' but young woman. That aside one must also note that only Matthew…[Read more]

I'd be careful with the 'morning star' star references. Let's look at the Isaiah passage since Christians like to take Jewish bible verses out of context to show Jewish fulfilled many of them. Watch this.——————–Isa 14:9 Sheol from beneath has moved for you to meet you at your coming. It stirs up the dead for you, even all the rulers…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 27 2007,07:49)If the snake was satan, how was he in Eden before lucifer supposedly fellto earth and became satan?TimThe snake was not satan.Lucifer is an invention of the catholic church.Is 14:12 is talking about Nebuchadnezzar.

Quote (david @ Oct. 27 2007,01:52)Quote get 29, subtract 30, get 1 BC. I don't have time to read this right now, but if you subtract 30 from the year 29, you get 2 BC. There is no zero year. (Many make that mistake.)It goes like this: -3, -2, -1, 1, 2, 3, 4….No zero year.Thanks, you are right. But that doesn't change the fact that Luke can't…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 26 2007,09:01)Hi Towshab:You say:Quote While this is quoted from in the Christian bible, don't assume automatically that it is about Jesus. If I was going to prove a point about my man being the Messiah, I'd use the Jewish scriptures to prove my point as well. That aside, I want to direct you to the last 2 verses in that same…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 26 2007,19:47)So, I take it you are still waiting for Messiah?Hundreds of prophecies were fullfilled through Jesus.No, hundreds of verses taken out of context were fulfilled by Jesus. Christian writers took the Jewish scriptures and attempted to make Jesus into the Messiah. When he died on the cross, they had to start making up…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 26 2007,07:36)Towshab,Underneath, your disappointment with the Christian faith. Your disgust with Paul. Your disenchament with those who defend Christianity.You assume these things yet cannot know for you are not in my shoes. I am not disappointed with the Christian faith, I am disappointed that I spent so many years…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Oct. 26 2007,17:14)Jesus is real…thats the only reason you can be forgiven of your sins.Can you show me in the Jewish Bible (you call it the Old Testament) where we do not have forgiveness of sins? If you will review my posts you will find that G-d has always provided a way for us to be forgiven, with or without sacrifice. The…[Read more]

The last post was supposed to read “Have you ever wondered why your bible tries to eliminate the Torah”. My 'y' key is not engaging every time

Quote (Samuel @ Oct. 26 2007,17:14)May GOD have mercy on your soul.I can't discuss this anymore…this has gone way to far for me.To say that JESUS is not real is flat out blasphemy…and I can't engage in further conversation on this matter. Jesus is real…thats the only reason you can be forgiven of your sins. Ye of little faith…May GOD have…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 26 2007,14:28)Quote Yes, that's why so many Mary's. The authors could confuse the issue that way.–tOWshab.Yes, all these mary's can be confusing. Maybe there was so many mary's because “mary” was a common name back then, just like “John” was an extremely popular name in the early part of last century.If you're having trouble…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 26 2007,14:17)Towshab states:Quote That is where a big contradiction comes in for the Christian bible. All throughout the Jewish Bible, G-d says He is the only savior, that there is no other. Then along comes Jesus and people call him the savior. How did G-d change? Right. God is the only savior. Without him, there could be…[Read more]

Quote (Morningstar @ Oct. 26 2007,14:45)Quote (Towshab @ Oct. 26 2007,12:36)Hello forum,I do apologize if I've come off as offensive. That is not my intention. I have had some people trying to evangelize me and they actually got testy with me when I would not turn back to Christianity. So I came in here with an over zealous attitude it seems.To…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Oct. 25 2007,23:42)Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 24 2007,23:24)Quote (Towshab @ Oct. 25 2007,14:56)The new covenant does not exist. This 'new covenant' was never made bu the God of Israel, it was a human contract between the apostate Paul and his roman cohorts.Towshab,Your name stands for something, doesn't it? I have seen what it stands…[Read more]