Quote (david @ Oct. 29 2007,02:10)Quote I'm sorry, but I am not trying to hide anything.–towshab, page 4 I just find this amusing coming from a guy wearing a mask.I was merely wanting to make the threads private so only those who wished to discuss these things could. That way others who did not care to read what is going on don't have to. I know…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 29 2007,02:08)Quote Hi David,Missed this post. Hashem is indeed the latest way to avoid using the name of G-d. It is a superstition in many ways, but I have adopted this and it has become habitual. I used it many times to avoid offending my Jewish friends and I have no issue with using it. I think it helps to set me apart from…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 29 2007,02:00)Quote Here is the next problem with Matthew although it is not an issue with the Jewish scriptures.——————–Mat 2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 29 2007,01:54)Quote These wise men, or magis, where not Jewish but pagan. Why would pagan magicians want to worship a Jewish messiah? I'll tell you. Because he was a pagan messiah not a Jewish messiah. You have some research to do. The word “proskyneo” doesn't have to mean worship. In fact, “worship” is not it's primary…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 29 2007,01:54)Quote These wise men, or magis, where not Jewish but pagan. Why would pagan magicians want to worship a Jewish messiah? I'll tell you. Because he was a pagan messiah not a Jewish messiah. You have some research to do. The word “proskyneo” doesn't have to mean worship. In fact, “worship” is not it's primary…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 28 2007,23:46)Signs of the end of the age….Matthew 24:10-14, in partAt that time many will turn away from the faith…..And many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.The Jews are still…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 28 2007,23:05)Hi Towshab:It seems to me, knowing that there is no doubt that Jesus is the Messiah, that your time would better spent in studying to determine how God through the account of the virgin birth of His Son and his Christ kept his promise to David.God BlessHi 942767,I'm afraid I do not follow. I do not believe any…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Oct. 27 2007,22:21)Quote (Towshab @ Oct. 28 2007,15:01)Quote (Stu @ Oct. 27 2007,20:55)Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 28 2007,11:10)Come on Towshab, I don't want to see you leave.If for no other reason than I like the way you have given me a whole new respectfor the biblical knowledge of david.Believers should not fear discourse with non…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2007,21:17)Quote Since others want me to continue, I saw yet another contradiction in the resurrection accounts. This one is powerful because the contradiction takes place in the same book and chapter!——————–Luk 24:12 Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2007,21:33)But even then, the negative ones could also apply in many cases. Jesus died along with criminals. He became a curse on our behalf so we could escape the curse of the law. He became something he was not, so that we could become something we were not.BTW, there are Morning Stars (plural).He is THE Morning Star.Likewise…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2007,21:25)Towshab, my reply is getting off the discussions subject to some degree, so I will reply to your post in a more appropriate discussion.https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….ry80843Hi T8,Your link is broken.

Quote (kenrch @ Oct. 28 2007,21:01)Quote Do Muslim suicide bombers die for a cause they know is false?I would assume that they are deceived. Why are they deceived but you are not? What evidence can you present that says Christian scripture is inspired while Islamic scripture is not? What do both of these religions have in common? The Jewish Torah.…[Read more]

Here is the next problem with Matthew although it is not an issue with the Jewish scriptures.——————–Mat 2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ Oct. 28 2007,18:45)Quote (Towshab @ Oct. 29 2007,11:37)Ah, where was I? Matthew, chapter 2. Its AMAZING how many mistakes Matthew made! Like I've said, I now think he did it on purpose. Whoever wrote this gospel was really a good Jew because he kept other good Jews from falling for Jesus. He accomplished this by inserting many…[Read more]

Since others want me to continue, I saw yet another contradiction in the resurrection accounts. This one is powerful because the contradiction takes place in the same book and chapter!——————–Luk 24:12 Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed,…[Read more]

Still in chapter 2. Matthew is either incompetant or intentional.Mat 2:15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.What prophet said this? O yes, Hosea!Hos 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of…[Read more]

Ah, where was I? Matthew, chapter 2. Its AMAZING how many mistakes Matthew made! Like I've said, I now think he did it on purpose. Whoever wrote this gospel was really a good Jew because he kept other good Jews from falling for Jesus. He accomplished this by inserting many mistakes into the gospel of Matthew.Mat 2:7 Then Herod, when he had…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 27 2007,18:10)Come on Towshab, I don't want to see you leave.If for no other reason than I like the way you have given me a whole new respectfor the biblical knowledge of david.Believers should not fear discourse with non believers if they are truly grounded in their faith.It should permit them to prove the error in the non…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 27 2007,14:45)Hashem: in Judaism, a substitute word used when referring to God in contexts other than prayers or scriptural readings, because the name for God is considered too holy for such use.Did those who wrote the Bible consider God's name “too holy” for use?Are we not told countless times to praise God's name?Why is it in…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2007,18:03)The point to these forums is to challenge all things. But not to attack or hurt people.As long as you challenge what is in the bible with genuine things such as scripture or archaeological evidence, then that is fine, If you are here to say everyone with faith is stupid, then that is not OK.There is no problem…[Read more]