Quote (david @ Dec. 29 2007,18:06)Quote Gentiles (most Christians) are left out. –towYes, they are left out of that particular covenant, which was between God and “Israel.” True.DEUTERONOMY 5:1-3“And Moses proceeded to call all ISRAEL and to SAY TO THEM : “Hear, O ISRAEL, the regulations and the judicial decisions that I am speaking in YOUR ear…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 29 2007,18:26)Quote Then maybe YOU should toss out Ezekiel 40+ since it describes many different aspects of the sanctuary that will be built.In Bible prophecy the measuring of something usually indicates that Jehovah’s purpose for that thing is certain to be thoroughly worked out. (2 Kings 21:13; Jeremiah 31:39; Lamentations 2…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 29 2007,15:55)Quote It is more of a promise that a prophecy. One can view it as both. It basically means that all REAL and anointed kings to sit on the throne of David will be of the lineage of David through Solomon. Do you think that once all of the others are fulfilled some will ask “show me your lineage”? There will be no…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 29 2007,16:02)“ is telling his word to Jacob, his regulations and his judicial decisions to Israel. He has not done that way to any other nation; and as for his judicial decisions, they have not known them.” (Psalm 147:19, 20) Well there ya go, Gentiles (most Christians) are left out. So much for 'replacement theology'.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 29 2007,15:29)Quote (Towshab @ Dec. 30 2007,07:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 29 2007,12:23)Hi Tow, Indeed Christ the suffering servant will return as king and those who pierced him will now recognise him and mourn for him. He will rule from Jerusalem.Sorry, no second coming in Tanakh. The second coming is a fairy tale that…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 29 2007,15:04)Quote Deu 13:4 You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him.If someone comes along and teaches that Torah has been abolished, then he will NOT be a prophet of G-d OR the King Messiah. So while it is not a messianic…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 29 2007,14:54)Quote But I think lineage will be a moot point should anyone fulfill the others. He would not have to prove his lineage because when all the remaining prophecies are fulfilled there will be little doubt.–Towshab.WHY THE PROPHECY THEN? You say he won't have to fulfill certain prophecies, such as this one, because…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 29 2007,12:23)Hi Tow, Indeed Christ the suffering servant will return as king and those who pierced him will now recognise him and mourn for him. He will rule from Jerusalem.Sorry, no second coming in Tanakh. The second coming is a fairy tale that attempts to make up for Jesus failing to fulfill a single messianic prophecy.

Quote (david @ Dec. 29 2007,14:23)Quote (6) Will not lead people to disobey Torah (Deu 13:1-4).I've never looked at this scripture as something that the Messiah would fulfill thus indicating he was the Messiah.DEUTERONOMY 13:1-4““In case a prophet or a dreamer of a dream arises in your midst and does give you a sign or a portent, and the sign or…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Dec. 29 2007,14:02)Quote (Towshab @ Dec. 29 2007,12:53)What will the King Messiah accomplish and fulfill?(1) Build the 3rd Temple (Eze 37:26-28, Mic 4:1).(2) Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isa 43:5-6, Isa 27:12-13 & 11:12).(3) Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. (Isa…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 29 2007,11:56)Eze 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. Eze 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 29 2007,01:01)Quote Did you miss the other sentence, or is that YOUR bias?”In the vast majority of cases, however, the plural form is treated as if it were a noun in the singular“Did you miss the first part of my post or is that your bias?No, but it seems you ignore the alternatives in your quote that don't agree…[Read more]

What will the King Messiah accomplish and fulfill?(1) Build the 3rd Temple (Eze 37:26-28, Mic 4:1).(2) Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isa 43:5-6, Isa 27:12-13 & 11:12).(3) Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. (Isa 2:4, Isa 11:6, Micah 4:3)(4) Spread universal knowledge of the God of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 28 2007,16:14)And this blows my theory you say? You of all people should know that wikipedia is not such a reliable source and that there is many different “Opinions” regarding the nature of the word “Eloyim”Check this source out which contradicts your source…Range of MeaningsJewish1.The word `eloha “God” and its p…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 28 2007,14:22)TowQuote Uh, you forgot the next verse after Gen 1:26Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.What happened to your 'us'? He was speaking either to the heavenly host in Gen 1:26 or 'us' was a plural form of majesty, just as a king…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 28 2007,07:55)The Ten commandments were given by a demonic, fallen, evil angel?Yes or No.If yes which of the Ten Commandments are BAD? Was it Jehovah that gave the Ten Commandments?The law other than the Ten which were given by God are fulfilled.The OT people were led by the letter of the law. The NT “children” of God are…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 28 2007,10:03)TowQuote Sorry, but miracles and commands of genocide aside, I can still show Jesus is NOT the Jewish King Messiah. None of the passages on the messianic age have anything to do with miracles (except for resurrection of the dead) or genocide. But it makes you feel safer to attack my 'credibility' than…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 28 2007,07:23)Tow you should not condemn your mentor ~Paul~ you are exactly as he WAS! Before it was his time! If your love for God is as you say then you WILL come around just as Paul did. 'Come around'? He had a spasmodic episode on the road to Damascus and thought he heard voices. In fact, in Acts, whenever he retold the…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 28 2007,04:39)Hi Tow,The peace I give is not the peace the world gives. God's peace will keep your hearts and minds safe in Christ Jesus.The peace YOU give? Are you a god too?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 27 2007,20:07)Quote Just as you choose to turn your god into a trinity when such is not found in the words of Tanakh or even the GT? So you should not be approaching me with such when you know good and well that your god was formed somewhere around 325 CE. If I choose not to believe that YHVH commanded people to…[Read more]