Quote (acertainchap @ Aug. 02 2007,00:12)Quote (TimothyVI @ Aug. 01 2007,09:58)what this man described is not biblical. It is from a fictional book, Dante's inferno.TimDon't you mean, Baxter? I've never read the Inferno but have heard about it. Aren't there different levels of hell or something in the story? Baxters gave me that impression, but…[Read more]

I am sorry chap. I didn't realize that your first post was intended toteach your doctrine rather than to have a discourse on the subject of hell.It is apparent that you chose to believe what man has written rather thanwhat the scriptures have to say that have been shown to you.Keep in mind that much of what you posted by Baxter was to indorse the…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ Aug. 01 2007,09:54)Quote (TimothyVI @ Aug. 01 2007,09:44)The fear that you feel that if you disbelieve in it you will go there, is exactly why I so despise that unscriptural doctrine.So you believe this to be unfounded and unbiblical?Chap,what this man described is not biblical. It is from a fictional book, Dante's inferno.I…[Read more]

Hi chap,I am sorry that I said what I said the way that I did. Actually in my mind I was not even thinking about you when I said some people want to believe. You had already stated that you did not want to believe, but you did.The fear that you feel that if you disbelieve in it you will go there, is exactly why I so despise that unscriptural…[Read more]

Chap,Please read carefully what the scriptures have to say about God's use of fire.Our merciful and graceful loving God and Father does not eternally torture humanity IN fire, but rather eternally saves humanity BY fire.Let’s read it and rejoice: “Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be rev…[Read more]

Hi chap,This man had a dream that he was in hell for 23 minutes. He was not dead and got a glimpseof hell before he was revived. You are correct, we are devided on this issue.I do not believe fictional stories from people who want their 15 minutes of fame.Jesus warned us about these people.I honestly feel a deep sadness that you must live with the…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ Aug. 01 2007,00:03)What about people who have died and brought back, only to claim that they saw hell and people who have died and claimed to have seen Heaven? Surely at least one of these millions of people would have saw an actual hell without Satan clouding their vision. If you don't respond to this, then I assume that you…[Read more]

Hi Nick,I will pray for a safe trip and return.Enjoy,Tim

Quote (acertainchap @ July 31 2007,08:50)Quote (kenrch @ July 31 2007,03:09)No crying in the New Kingdom. Could you watch your son being tortured burning forever?Rev 20:14 “'And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, even the lake of fire.'””Second death NOT second eternal life in fire!”I being sinful couldn't…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ July 31 2007,01:13)*I hope not but you may indeed be right. This might have been why you are of this interpretation. I'm not 100% sure on the origin of evil at the moment either. Just stay strong.Peace!  Hi chap,Your reply to my statement that translators and theologians have made things up was “I hope not”.People have…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ July 31 2007,00:31)These verses don't indicate that Hell is real?Matthew 25:41 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.Mark 9:43-4843 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than…[Read more]

That's O.K. chap.Like most of us I get many things wrong when studying scriptures.Sometimes I actually get irritated that they seem so confusing.However, I never make any thing up as you implied. My interpretationmay just be different. On the contrary, many Christian theologians and translators havecertainly made things up. I merely wanted to give…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 29 2007,07:59)God is a wise God and his plan is a perfect plan, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.God BlessHi 94,I am glad that you agree that His plan is a perfect plan.Satan was part of His perfect plan. Nothing happens that God is not aware of.I am unable to make Him seem so weak as to have failed in His…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ July 30 2007,10:17)Quote (TimothyVI @ July 28 2007,09:55)“That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside Me, I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, AND CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do ALL THESE THINGS” (Isaiah 45:6-7)Why is it so hard…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ July 28 2007,00:18)When one is about to sin, evil enters their mind. This enters through choice. God didn't create evil but he created free-will. If we make bad choices on that free-will, then evil results as a consequence.So it was the free will choice of the Pharaoh to defy God and Moses.Exd 9:12 And the LORD hardened the…[Read more]

When Isaiah said that God creates evil the same Hebrew word ra was used for evil that was used to mean evil 442 other times in the old testament.There is no reason to believe that at this one time it meant something else otherthan evil.Tim

Hi 942767,Didn't his angels love him?Could God not have destroyed the spirit of evil forever even then?Tim

Quote (elaine1809 @ July 28 2007,09:39) Sorry I did not know that it was going to be almost impossible to read my post in this light color blue I chose. I fixed it! I am from Puerto Rico have 5 teenage children and of course my first language is spanish so pardon my bad grammar in English. Thank you for answering my first post Welcome Elaine,What…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ July 28 2007,00:18)Quote (david @ April 01 2007,08:53)I don't believe this.  And I don't believe that Jehovah created evil.  I believe that he made men in such a way that they have free will.(Ecclesiastes 7:29) “See! This only I have found, that the God made mankind upright, but they themselves have sought out many pla…[Read more]

Quote (acertainchap @ July 28 2007,00:13)Quote (charity @ July 26 2007,18:11)OOCH,  Dam it! why didn’t Noah just swat those two mosquitoesPsalm 140:3They sharpen their tongues as a serpent; Poison of a viper is under their lips.Please stop swearing. It's still swearing even if you didn't put the “n” in.Actually, I find it really disgusting when pe…[Read more]