David,You say, “To us, there is one God.” And we confess that God to be Jesus. John 20:28.Tim

Hi Nick,What is the fruit of anti-Trinitarians? What churches to they go to? What fellowship do they have?Tim

Hi Nick,Yahweh is the Holy One. Jesus is the Holy One. Yahweh is the first and the last. Jesus is the first and the last. You shall have no gods before Yahweh. Jesus is my God.Tim

Hi Nick,The creeds say what the Bible says. Why do you not submit to the Bible?Tim

Hi Nick,None of the creeds say that Jesus is His own Father. Why don't you criticize the creeds for what they actually say?And if you hold that Jesus isn't Yahhweh, how do you follow the first commandment? Tim

Hi Nick,No, my creed is from the Bible and is based on the words of Jesus, “I am the first and the last.”Why don't you submit to the Bible?Tim

TimVI,So your argument is, “The Trinity is not in the parts of the Bible that I accept.” Ok. Let me know when you accept the whole Bible.Tim

David,Yes, when Christ is asked, “Are you the Messiah,” and he replies, “I am,” I can see how that would indicate that He's the Messiah. I fail to see where He's asked this in John 8 or 10.Which of the “gods” in Psalm 82 is called one with the Father? Which of them is in the Father and the Father in them?Tim

Quote (Adam Pastor @ April 05 2007,17:37)Quote (Tim2 @ April 05 2007,08:47)Hi Nick,My beliefs are sorted out.  They're in the 3 ecumenical creeds.  They're imposed on all the world by God, through the Bible.TimRather, church history shows that these beliefs & creeds were imposed on all the world by a lot of bloodshed, the edge of the sword and p…[Read more]

Matthew 28:19

Besides YHWH there is no god.Isaiah 44:6, 8, 45:5, 21, 46:9″Jesus is too called a God.” No, he's called God. And there's only one, YHWH.Tim

Hi Nick,My beliefs are sorted out. They're in the 3 ecumenical creeds. They're imposed on all the world by God, through the Bible.Tim

Hi Not3in1,Paul says you have to confess that Jesus is Lord in order to be saved. 4 verses later he tells us who that Lord is, YHWH. So I hope that is your confession.As for coerced repentance, YHWH did it to Israel all the time. It is terrifying to me, but it is still better for YHWH to afflict us in this life so as to bring us to repentance,…[Read more]

Better to be coerced into believing now than to suffer in eternity for it.

Ken,They do believe He is the Son. They confess this in the Nicene Creed every Sunday.Tim

David,This is the John 8:58 thread. In John 8:58, the Jews tried to stone him. I'd say that's relevant.In any event, we know why the Jews tried to stone him. “For blasphemy. And because You, being a man, make Yourself out God.” -John 10:33. I know it's another chapter, but do you really think the Jews came up with a different reason along…[Read more]

Hi Nick,You know what I believe. It's in the Athanasian Creed. I've said over and over again, I believe in one God. If you want to argue with me, argue with what I'm actually saying. The Son of God is the same God as the Father, one God. Argue with that, please.Tim

You tried? To get me not to believe that Jesus is my God? That the Spirit isn't the Lord? Why on earth would you want me not to believe something that is in the Bible?

Hi Nick,”Ye believe in God, believe also in Me.” It means that Jesus is God. If Jesus is not God, then why would we have to believe in Him?”Jesus Christ, the Son of God” means that Jesus is God. That's what John 5:18 says. Tim

Hi Nick,The Son of God and His Father are the same God. John 10:30. Tim