Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 26 2006,17:33)Sultan,You wrote:Quote Let me help you understand. I simply believe the Bible in context. All of the other questions are just man's confusion (i.e seperate deitiey,persons,etc).I will always answer your questions with the Bible. That is what I believe. The Word of God. The confusing part for you and others is…[Read more]

Quote and you believe that the Son was formed from the Father's Word before the beginning of creation and became flesh later on.No sir.The scriptures say, “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. (John 1:14). The scriptures don't say that Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 26 2006,09:41)Sultan,You wrote:Quote I would like for you to answer my question also please. Where does Yahweh's word come from?My apologies, Sultan. I did not realize that this was a pressing question for you. My understanding:YHWH's word comes from the Spirit of YHWH.You wrote:Quote I'm not sure if I can answer your…[Read more]

Quote (Sammo @ Jan. 25 2006,18:48)Quote (Sultan @ Jan. 25 2006,21:38)Quote (Sammo @ Jan. 25 2006,14:56)“In the beginning was the word”… – read Genesis 1 More here.I found this an interesting read. The one area where I find contradiction to the Bible is”Christ was certainly God's spoken word in action – and therefore His representative on Earth –…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 25 2006,17:42)Thanks Sultan.You have answered most of my questions. I just have one remaining:You wrote:Quote The Word of Yahweh comes from Yahweh. So it is a part of Him. Do you disagree? If you do please explain to me where Yahwehs words come from.Does this mean that you believe Yahshua is a “part” of Yahweh?I would…[Read more]

scripture seeker,Are you trying to say that genuine faith will be shown in what is done. If so I agree. My point is simple. We are not saved by works of the law or works of love ( a murderer wihtout faith in God could still feed the hungry,etc.). We are saved by faith in Jesus and what He has done, but if we truley have faith in Jesus it will be…[Read more]

Quote (Scripture Seeker @ Jan. 25 2006,15:43)Woutlaw, Brother, you have made this dialogue really great, and I thank you. Your humbleness shows your greatness. Mat 5:5, Luk 14:11. Sorry I haven’t replied earlier I have been away from home for the last few days. Hebrews tells us that it is by faith to be sure of the things we hoped for and gives m…[Read more]

Quote (Sammo @ Jan. 25 2006,14:56)“In the beginning was the word”… – read Genesis 1 More here.I found this an interesting read. The one area where I find contradiction to the Bible is”Christ was certainly God's spoken word in action – and therefore His representative on Earth – but that was all. He did not pre-exist as some sort of sup…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 25 2006,13:36)Sultan,In addition to Is 1:18's question, I would like some further clarification as well. Despite your efforts at explanation, your beliefs still seem rather ambiguous. Let me see if I can summarize your beliefs, and also interject any questions that may arise as a result. Here goes:1. You believe that,…[Read more]

Quote (Bastian @ Jan. 25 2006,13:58)Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 25 2006,06:41)Quote (Sultan @ Jan. 25 2006,00:02)Yet the scripture clearly affirms that the Word was God, Speaking of the nature of the Word. a god describes the Word as being a person, and I don't see that in the context, and neither do the majority of translations that interpret this text…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 25 2006,12:42)Hi Sultan,I came to the conclusion that you didn't believe the Word to be a literal person, but rather the Father's spoken word. But I admit I have been skimming through most of the posts lately, not having the time to read them thoroughly. Perhaps you can clarify your position for me. Do you believe the Word…[Read more]

Quote (Sultan @ Jan. 25 2006,07:16)Quote (david @ Jan. 24 2006,23:03)Sultan, did you know that the symbol of the cross, the one on your Bible and on your podium on your avatar is a pagan symbol, and a false one?Because I'm kindof under a time crunch here, I'll answer your question as you answered mine: It means what it means.Yes David I know, but…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 25 2006,01:41)Quote (Sultan @ Jan. 25 2006,00:02)Yet the scripture clearly affirms that the Word was God, Speaking of the nature of the Word. a god describes the Word as being a person, and I don't see that in the context, and neither do the majority of translations that interpret this text outside of a trinitarian context.Hi…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 24 2006,23:03)Sultan, did you know that the symbol of the cross, the one on your Bible and on your podium on your avatar is a pagan symbol, and a false one?Because I'm kindof under a time crunch here, I'll answer your question as you answered mine: It means what it means.Yes David I know, but It was my test avatar and pretty…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 24 2006,17:33)Sultan,You wrote:Quote The scriptures testity that in the beginning there was God, His Word, and His spirit (Gen1:1 and John 1:1). I believe that. To me, that sounds very much like an affirmation of the Trinity. Is that what you meant to imply here?Then you wrote:Quote Now when you begin to talk about Yashua…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 24 2006,16:57)1 CORINTHIANS 8:5-6“For even though there are those who are called “gods,” whether in HEAVEN or on earth, just as there are MANY “gods” and many “lords,” THERE IS ACTUALLY TO US ONE GOD the FATHER, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, a…[Read more]

Quote (Bastian @ Jan. 24 2006,15:26)Jesus had his Father’s nature. That did not make him a divine being. Jesus Christ had a perfect human nature the way God intended. Jesus truly did reflect a man made in the image of God. We humans need to make Jesus something he is not. It is difficult for us to believe that a human being could be perfect b…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 24 2006,12:16)Sultan,I am confused as to your beliefs about Messiah.Are you saying that Yahshua is a manifistation of the Almighty? Or, are you saying that Yahshua is a separate, distinct “divine being” who existed in the beginning with YHWH?It sounds to me like you believe there were two “divine” beings in the beginning,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 24 2006,01:13)Was Jesus Divine on Earth?The Scriptures make it clear that Jesus was entirely human from his birth until his death. John did not say that the Word was merely clothed with flesh. He “became flesh” and was not part flesh and part God. If Jesus had been both God and man when on the earth, why did he repeatedly pra…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 24 2006,01:08)Quote Christ was more than just a man, and that's why I quoted Col 2:9 “For in Him all thefullness of Deity dwells in bodily form” The text says all the fulness of deity in bodily form. Yes, Sultan, but what does this scripture mean in light of the other scriptures I provided that you refuse or are unable to…[Read more]