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    Hello all,Just wanted to join the chat. I'm from Orlando, Florida.

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    Quote (The One @ July 28 2006,20:38)Fellow members, I have read many posts on this site before joining,and I would like to thank the originator of this site(T8 I believe)for doing a fine job. I believed in the triune God doctrine all of my life.I followed the example set down by many preachers,teachers…,all of whom I considered godly…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cubes @ July 29 2006,12:33)Following are excerpts from the Catholic Encyclopedia:Quote http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htmThe Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion — the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these…[Read more]

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    Sultan replied to the topic The great apostasy in the forum Prophecy 18 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (david @ June 28 2006,00:18)Excellent question Sultan. If “Easter” is the proper translation, from what Greek word is it translated?I feel strongly Sultan that you will only get silence.Yes David I believe you're right, and the funny thing is this is the first reference, I have a dozen more. I used to be part of a group that believed the…[Read more]

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    Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 27 2006,22:02)Yet, the verses that were suppossably swapped are rumors. Any proof is as corrupt as those who claim the validity of the corrupted translations.H,What was God's Word before 1611?

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    Sultan replied to the topic The great apostasy in the forum Prophecy 18 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 25 2006,20:59)Easter celebrations were held hundreds of years before Christ was born as festivals of spring honoring Eostre, the great mother goddess of the Saxons. This name was fashioned after the ancient word for spring, Eastre. The goddess Ostara was the Norse equivalent whose symbols were the hare and the…[Read more]

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    Sultan replied to the topic The great apostasy in the forum Prophecy 18 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (Sultan @ June 18 2006,00:46)Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 17 2006,23:29)Easter is the proper translation. All the others have it wrong. The translaters purpose was not to make changes or to be bias. Their job was to be unbias and to be as according to those who wrote the OT. Their intention was to copy. They did not want to bring any…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,23:53)Hi H, The Word of God is alive and active. It is above any human effort at translation. Those who have the Spirit do not need to claim a perfect transalation becuse that Spirit gives light to the written Word.Amen. Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the…[Read more]

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    Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 17 2006,19:47)Dear Sultan,If you look a little deeper, you will understand. Jesus is the Word of God. If you look up the word begotten in the dictionary, it say to bring into existance. In the beginning, the Father begat the Son. Even before the heavens and the earth was the Son. God spoke creation into…[Read more]

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    Sultan replied to the topic The great apostasy in the forum Prophecy 18 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 17 2006,23:29)Easter is the proper translation. All the others have it wrong. The translaters purpose was not to make changes or to be bias. Their job was to be unbias and to be as according to those who wrote the OT. Their intention was to copy. They did not want to bring any influence of any sort or any…[Read more]

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    Sultan replied to the topic The great apostasy in the forum Prophecy 18 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (kenrch @ June 17 2006,11:56)Hi Sultan,Good to hear from you again. I have a question regarding Easter. We all know that Easter is a pagan holiday. Rome remember was Pagan. Most Christian holidays have pagan roots. Would it be possible that Easter was placed beside Passover for the Roman pagan.Just a thought.Good to hear from you my…[Read more]

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    Sultan replied to the topic The great apostasy in the forum Prophecy 18 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 17 2006,10:21)Dear Sultan, sounds to me you are not using the same greek the translators used.Which Greek did the translaters use H? Give me the Greek word for Easter H.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,04:13)Hi Sultan, How about”only begotten God” as in Jn 1.18? Adam Pastor has shown that there is manuscript variation here but it must be well supported for NASB to translate it thus.Nick, Thank you for the reference. I have seen this in the NASB, and alsoo in my greek New Testament, it is a very interesting…[Read more]

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    Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 16 2006,19:29)Dear ruko,Your bible is correct. Jesus is the first born of creation. Many think when the bible refers to Jesus as begotten, it means he was begotten when he came to earth as a man, but this is not so. Jesus is the beginning and end of God's plan of salvation. He is the Alpha, Omega, the beginning,…[Read more]

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    Sultan replied to the topic The great apostasy in the forum Prophecy 18 years, 5 months ago

    David,I believe you may be right. We'll see.

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    Sultan replied to the topic The great apostasy in the forum Prophecy 18 years, 5 months ago

    I just have one question for H. If the King James is infallible then why does it contradict the very languages it was translated from for example: Acts 12:4 (since you never truely addressed this)And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him…[Read more]

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    Sultan replied to the topic Akae in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 18 years, 5 months ago

    I noticed hescomingintheclouds never responded back. I guess he was a little surprised at the responses. :)

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    Great thread. I also came out of denominationalism, and enjoy true fellowship with those who love truth over tradition. When Jesus opens the understanding through His Word and the Spirit, it is hard to remain in darkness. TRUE unity is only found in TRUTH.

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    Quote (Cubes @ June 12 2006,10:46)Very good to see you again, Sultan!Great to be back. Thanks.

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    H,I would just like to suggest that though the KJV is a good translation it is not infallible. It has errors such as Acts. 12:4. Easter? The word in the greek is translated Passover in the whole New Testament, and the whole Septuagint except here. My point is let's not make a major deal out of a minor thing, and by the way I can show you errors in…[Read more]

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