Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2012,02:17)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 13 2012,18:09)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 12 2012,01:07)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 10 2012,18:18)Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 09 2012,22:58)You have nothing to explain.wakeup.I know that.  And yet you would call me a sinner.Christianity: the religion that overcomplicates simplistic dogma.StuartStu.If there is no God…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ Dec. 29 2012,09:57)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 26 2010,22:07)So is god the author of confusion or not?StuartGod is not the author of confusion, Never was and never will behowever He does not overstep man's free will, so if man wishes to confuse himself, that is his choice.God did not instigate the confusion in Babel.Man brought it upon…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 26 2012,21:49)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 17 2012,03:04)You've never explained why I should not expect a photograph.StuartA bit hard to photograph an eternal spirit.I've got no idea what an eternal spirit is, but can you actually explain why they can't be photographed, or are we just expected to take your word for it?Stuart

Quote (TimothyVI @ Dec. 18 2012,00:16)I still receive daily devotionals, via email, from the pastor of the church that Iused to attend.His last one addressed “blessings” from God.Here are snippets from that email.Quote One might ask of a Christian:”How do you know you are blessed?”That's a valid question that cannot be all that easily answered.I…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 16 2012,09:53)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 11 2012,20:54)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2012,07:41)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2012,23:39)That idea is that since no god believer has ever produced unambiguous evidence for his god claim, therefore it is a valid provisional conclusion that the god believer is deluded, and no gods really exist.That's not a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 16 2012,20:03)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 11 2012,21:08)You don't seem to be familiar with the longstanding body of unambiguous evidence in support of black holes.Scientific theories make predictions which sometimes can't be tested until the technology has become available.  We knew we had to make a Large Hadron Collider to confirm the…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ Dec. 14 2012,20:56) AS long as Time an space proceed, emotional convictions, bigotry, an superior reasoning can be preserved.Exactly!Stuart

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 14 2012,00:21)Evidently so, Do you really believe we possess any significant portion of all the knowledge in the universe? Science takes scattered facts, to create theories but then forgets that they're only theories and begins building further “facts” (theories) on top of other “facts” (theories).My opinion – WmI've got…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 13 2012,17:42)Really… that's the best you can do? Evidently not.Stuart

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 12 2012,15:09)The only way to keep the creation stories from being compatible with science, is to interpret them right out of shape.WmYou don't know what you're talking about, do you.Stuart

…Abrahamism…

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 11 2012,18:35)StuI can defend My believe in God the same way that you defend your believe in your science of evolution,God the creator does not need men to defend him ,it does not matter what you think or do it will always be his way that will be done ,and to prove this he has made it in written words,and it stands  ever…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 12 2012,00:01)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 11 2012,15:11)Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 11 2012,12:41)The “evidence” hasn't changed since creation, why are “scientific conclusions” always changing… I assume you'll respond that new evidence bought science to an improved conclusion. Do you really think that the small percentage of…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 10 2012,16:20)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 10 2012,15:47)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 10 2012,09:29)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 24 2012,21:30)I guess this is one dead debate.  Would anyone like to speculate why t8 apparently didn't want to be involved, even though he started it?StuartIdon't know ifanyone else can evn join this debate otherwise…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 11 2012,12:41)The “evidence” hasn't changed since creation, why are “scientific conclusions” always changing… I assume you'll respond that new evidence bought science to an improved conclusion. Do you really think that the small percentage of knowledge that we possess, justifies such arrogance in scientific dogma?…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2012,07:56)Now let's assume that Stu wrote his post in 1960.Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2012,23:39)That idea is that since no god believer has ever produced unambiguous evidence for his god claim, therefore it is a valid provisional conclusion that the god believer is deluded, and no gods really exist.That's not a faith-based belief…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2012,07:41)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2012,23:39)That idea is that since no god believer has ever produced unambiguous evidence for his god claim, therefore it is a valid provisional conclusion that the god believer is deluded, and no gods really exist.That's not a faith-based belief that I hold because it is not based in evidence,…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 10 2012,09:29)Quote (Stu @ Nov. 24 2012,21:30)I guess this is one dead debate.  Would anyone like to speculate why t8 apparently didn't want to be involved, even though he started it?StuartIdon't know ifanyone else can evn join this debate otherwise I certainly would like to engage.What if one took the position that God…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Dec. 07 2012,23:24)Quote (Guncher @ Nov. 29 2012,00:18)Today I asked some fellow believers about eternal torment for unbelieversI posed a hypothetical story. A king has a subject who steals a bowl of fruit from him, so as a punishment , he has them burned with a hot iron for the rest of their livesMy friends thought that that was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2012,05:33)This thread has gone way off topic.  Do any of the atheists out there have an actual explanation to the points that t8 and Wm made in this thread?If the eternal monkeys will take one gagillion years (or whatever) to happen upon the minute amount of information stored in the 23rd psalm with random keystrokes,…[Read more]