Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2010,01:23)Dennison,Thanks for your picture. So are you saying by this picture that the Father is a 'part of' God, the Son is a 'part of' God, and the Holy Spirit is a 'part of' God?Lu,No, lets define the Terms correctly.I dont believe that God was ALWAYS Father sense that depends if he has a creation to be a Father…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 20 2010,01:12)In other words, don't believe the Bible, believe the commentators.GeorgNo in other words, dont take one phrase as your whole proof a doctrine that doesnt exist. in other words you picked one needle that came from the grass and say this is evidence that Christ was created, which is not true.Georg your better than…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2010,19:26)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 14 2010,23:06)its funny how Lu and WJ agree the whole time in many apects in the beginning of this thread,and only bc the silly trinitarian beliefs that things get all messed up. Trinitarians and Anti trinitarians… their all messed upSFHOW??PierreBecause you based everything in…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 17 2010,23:33)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 17 2010,18:44)Dude,Bod,We broke that image as soon as we chose to say NO.In other words Bod, we were disobediant to God.He gave a command and YET Adam sinned,You say the image was broken but that's not what the scripture says:Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become l…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2010,03:42)Hi Keith and Mike,I see that you are discussing 'today' again.  I would like to mention that somewhere outside of our realm there is no night, just day as far as I can tell.Rev 21:23-2523 And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2010,03:42)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 19 2010,16:15)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 18 2010,16:53)Gene;1;1 says;Ge 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.this is before God start to transform the earth into a living place for men.like i have said many times before ,WJ you only see what you want to see…[Read more]

I would like to add this Picture so we can see what we are talking about.  Ignore the trees that are like cut down.This is the way i look at it.  We see a Tree.The first things you can see are the simple features like the bark, the branches, the fruit, the color green.  This is the parts we will be able to get to know.The unknowable or the to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2010,02:31)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 17 2010,19:57)A. Again What translation are you using, and if you would like lets go back to the hebrew of this passage.im going to post KJV Det4:15Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Sep. 19 2010,07:03)Hi SF.Quote Jerry,I have personal questions for you.Where are you from? How old are you?   I SF, I amd 75 years old, live in Langley, British Columbia, Canada.  Married ro a wonderfull wife for 50 plus years.  Have three children, seven grandchildren, and will be a great grandparent in November.Thanks for as…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Sep. 18 2010,12:18)Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 18 2010,03:04)SF,Technically SF is right…..Jesus was not “created” he was “pro-created”.That is why the terms “firstborn”, only “begotten” are used.The word “son” should've been a tip-off that Jesus is not God…who is the Father.We know that Adam was “created” because YHWH Elohim formed…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Sep. 18 2010,08:30)kerwin.   I don't understand what you are saying, you never give an example of my quote and comment on what I have said.  You ramble on about you giving me a hint about something, saying you hope I can figure it out for myself.  Your answers are pointless, how can anyone “guess” what you mean.  Try and ans…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Sep. 15 2010,23:42)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 16 2010,04:05)Jerry, The bottom  line is you are accusing Jesus of lying and thus you are not being believed.  You would be more creditable if you chose to interpret scriptures so you do not accuse Jesus of being the AntiChrist.kerwin.     I don't have any idea of what you are saying, ple…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 15 2010,23:07)SF…………I never said YOU wanted i simply as the Question WHY would you or anyone for that matter think that? not accusing you of anything. Just asking a question that is all. You ask why do you have to believe if your already going to be saved? because belief is what save us and will save the whole…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Sep. 16 2010,23:03)Pierre.   See the 'Interlinear Scripture Analyser” (The original Greek words into English).  The CORRECT translation of Ro.8:8  … 8 Now those who are in flesh are not able to please God.   I would now like to say that we must agree to disagree.  I cannot take any more of your abuse and accusations that are…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Sep. 16 2010,06:33)SF.You say…Quote the question you keep on neglecting: is there any point to preach or to even talk about God? can i start sinning and not worry at all about my salvation, can i sin freely now?   The truth is that you still do sin, are you trying to say that you haven't?  As long as you are in the 'flesh', y…[Read more]

David,Quote Technically SF is right…..Jesus was not “created” he was “pro-created”.That is why the terms “firstborn”, only “begotten” are used.The word “son” should've been a tip-off that Jesus is not God…who is the Father.Jesus is also the Son of Man, that doesnt mean he was literaly procreated from God.  I do believe he is begotten but…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2010,17:28)JFOh my Mike, do i have to say it again?When i say Preeminent, i also mean the First.  Like the FIRST in all things,the HEAD of all things,the boss, the king! your stuck on the word.  You should know what i mean by now.——————————————-use of proper wording is important so others c…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2010,07:27)Hi Dennis the Menace You are fairly correct about what I think.  The Prophets and the Law taught us a little about who God is.  By existing along with his God and being at His right hand for…..who knows how many years?……..Jesus knows his Father and God better than any human being can know Him……for n…[Read more]

Well mike you gave me Three post to work on Tonight.Im going to try to answer all of them in one post.Quote A.  We have never seen God take on ANY form whatsoever, so to worship ANYTHING that has a form of ANY kind is forbidden.B.  That includes images of men.  How many people have “Jesus shrines” with paintings and statues and the like de…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 17 2010,03:50)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 16 2010,16:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 16 2010,02:04)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 16 2010,04:41)Dude,Seriously you took all those scriptures out of context,we are to be perfect!but we can only be perfect THROUGH God,we cannot do it by ourselves, you have no ability to do so,THE…[Read more]