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    Quote (Baker @ Sep. 24 2010,19:04)Hi Dennison!  You say that Christ did not have a beginning?  Then do you believe in a Trinity?  That is what WJ believes that Christ did not have a beginning.  However there are two Scripture, that tell us, that I  know of that, Christ was created by God our Heavenly Father.  Col. 1:15 and rev. 3:14 in Rev. 3:14…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,17:40)Thanks Dennison,The word in 1 John 1 is called the word of life so maybe that has something to do with the 'action' idea.  If you think about it, God always existed and then there had to be a first thing to exist in a living way after Him.  So, that would be the 'word of life' and revealed to us as the Son o…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2010,02:20)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 22 2010,01:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2010,01:11)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 20 2010,13:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2010,01:23)Dennison,Thanks for your picture. So are you saying by this picture that the Father is a 'part of' God, the Son is a 'part of' God, and the Holy…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 23 2010,08:01)bumpSF:Quote like i said, from ancient times? which verse are you refering to again?  remember i told you that its refers to the hebrew “olam”?The verse is Micah 5:2….just like it says where I posted it on page one of this thread sonny. :)  And one of the words IS “owlam”.  Here's what NETBible says:Micah 5:…[Read more]

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    Mike,It does not say that you must have “knowledge” of both of them. The bible says in Romans that they KNEW God and walked away from him choosing corruptiable things.So its talking abotu relationship.like what Paul says in Philippains 3:10That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made…[Read more]

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    to add:did the people of Israel TURN to God so that they may be rescued????NO THEY ALWAYS SCREWED UP.prophet after prophet after prophet was sent so that THEY MAY KNOW that they have REDEEMER ready to save them if only they would TURN,but they wouldnt, they had no desire too.

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 21 2010,20:12)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 21 2010,15:02)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 21 2010,03:25)You are simply holding to your position out of habit, Did Jesus pay the price for those who do not believe at all and if so why do you try to convert them to believe if the price has been paid already belief is not an…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 22 2010,13:02)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 22 2010,17:35)Lu,was  the word  a person?from what i learned about what the “word” is that its something in action. a action verb. i dont remember. I cant imagine that the “word” was a physical person who created the universe. Hebrews 11:3Through faith we understand that the worlds w…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2010,01:11)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 20 2010,13:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2010,01:23)Dennison,Thanks for your picture. So are you saying by this picture that the Father is a 'part of' God, the Son is a 'part of' God, and the Holy Spirit is a 'part of' God?Lu,No, lets define the Terms correctly.I dont believe that…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 22 2010,08:34)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 17 2010,20:28)He is your Savouir your Redeemer your very reason why you live or have any chance of having eternal life.This Jesus, is the only way.Then we don't need the Father anymore at all, right?Seriously Dennison, who do you think set it up so we could only come to God…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 21 2010,00:24)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 21 2010,12:34)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2010,19:26)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 14 2010,23:06)its funny how Lu and WJ agree the whole time in many apects in the beginning of this thread,and only bc the silly trinitarian beliefs that things get all messed up. Trinitarians and…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 21 2010,03:25)You are simply holding to your position out of habit, Did Jesus pay the price for those who do not believe at all and if so why do you try to convert them to believe if the price has been paid already belief is not an issue.Are you a calvanist? Those who believe that all men are naturally depraved? It's…[Read more]

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    Jodi,I dont waste my time talking to you, and the reason is, since you read scritpure so much, how is it possible that your so limitedJesus was SANCTIFEID AND SENT, I.E. Holy spirit brought him into a virgen woman,the Woman gave birth to him,We ALL KNOW THIS, and we ALL KNOW OF THE VIRGIN Birth,but you limited yourself to only this understanding,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Sep. 21 2010,02:01)Colossians 1:15  He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.  16  For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.  17  And He i…[Read more]

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    Terra rica,Exactly,

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    Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. 5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 21 2010,00:12)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 21 2010,12:57)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2010,18:32)CO—SFwhat is truth as to do with age?????PierreAlot,its the reason why we dont understand eachotherSFwhy would truth of God changes in the age bracket???PierreTerrarica,its simple, We dont understand eachother becuase we are from…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 20 2010,18:32)CO—SFwhat is truth as to do with age?????PierreAlot,its the reason why we dont understand eachother

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    John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Philipians 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2010,01:42)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 19 2010,18:11)I Just think the point of the SPECFIC scripture you mentioned was in reference in man made images that Men worshipped.I disagree.  I think the whole point is that we have never seen God in ANY form whatsoever, so don't worship ANYTHING that we have seen take a form…[Read more]

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