Shimmer, Cool I already knew that, i was trying to be humble about it and not bring it up so that the arguements didnt extend into what exactly was going to happen. Truth is, no one really knows, exactly what is going to happen by the detail, unless we witness this get what im saying. We know the big picture, but we havent seen it for ourselves…[Read more]

You know as much as i would love to believe that everyone will be saved either through the purificaction of judgment or through faith in Jesus Christ, I have my doubts that everyone will be. I feel this is the the extreme of two sides. That one that mostly everyone will burn in hell, and second that everyone will be saved. I learned about…[Read more]

Bod I will answer soon, when i got time.

Quote Hi SF,Eccl.1:4 says that the Earth abideth for ever.Since when does a question turn into an accusation?God is going to “Renew” the Earth; rather than destroy it?Is it not faulty logic for you to infer God will obliterate and then recreate the Earth? I did answer your question, And as i said before, there will ALWAYS be an earth, for you to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 14 2010,05:23)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 14 2010,06:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 13 2010,05:54)Hey there D-linquent,Let's forget the rocks and stars for a moment.  Do YOU think this scripture refers to the angels and the 4 creatures who worship before Jehovah night and day?mikeHey Old Man,I didnt see your post since it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 13 2010,05:54)Hey there D-linquent,Let's forget the rocks and stars for a moment.  Do YOU think this scripture refers to the angels and the 4 creatures who worship before Jehovah night and day?mikeHey Old Man,I didnt see your post since it was intermixed with the Nonesense within this thread. Honest Truth i have no…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 14 2010,00:15)SFthis is your point less quote;What the heck? Lol Ed J, I made a point, The first earth and heavens WILL pass away. If you dont want to believe that than its not my problem.Im done argueing with you because your not making any sense. You just want to refute a point, and than say that im trying to disprove…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2010,14:23)SFCASE and POINT.will night and day cease pierre? NOwill summer and winter cease? NOWhat does revelation say about that?that you have no understanding of Gods will only of mens views.MY GOSH, Pierre wake up and smell the mc.nuggets we are talking about the same thing, yet you just want to argue with me for…[Read more]

TopicA Question for those who believe that Christ was createdRomans 819For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. 20For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2010,12:56)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 13 2010,23:28)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2010,10:11)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 13 2010,22:36)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2010,09:25)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 13 2010,22:05)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2010,06:13)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 13 2010,04:57)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 12…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2010,11:01)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 13 2010,16:58)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2010,10:49)Hi SF,Your causing me pain!Rom.8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now(Because of SF).And not only they, but ourselves (and Ed J) also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2010,10:49)Hi SF,Your causing me pain!Rom.8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now(Because of SF).And not only they, but ourselves (and Ed J) also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption(of SF), to wit, the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2010,10:37)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 13 2010,16:32)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2010,10:23)Hi Terraricca,There's a lot of false doctrines out there!Terraricca, I knew I could count on you!For SF's sake, here is how the word “New” is defined in both Rev.12:1 and 2 Peter 3:13Greek #2537 καινός (kainos) kähē-nôs': new (freshness i…[Read more]

Revelation 211And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Do you know how to Count? what comes first chapter 21 or 22? you tell me?

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2010,10:23)Hi Terraricca,There's a lot of false doctrines out there!Terraricca, I knew I could count on you!For SF's sake, here is how the word “New” is defined in both Rev.12:1 and 2 Peter 3:13Greek #2537 καινός (kainos) kähē-nôs': new (freshness ith respect to age), youthful, fresh, regenerate:-new, young should have been t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2010,10:11)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 13 2010,22:36)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 13 2010,09:25)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 13 2010,22:05)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2010,06:13)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Oct. 13 2010,04:57)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 12 2010,20:02)Hi SF,Are you trying to discount this verse?Eccl:1:4: One generation passeth…[Read more]

15) Foul diversion- Is when a poster crys and shouts out “abuse” “abuse” and All Posters will pay attention to the abuse and forget about the reasoning within the supposed “abuse” the Victem instead of ignoreing the abuse crys out intead of answering the reasoing behind the abuse16)N/A debate Fallacy-In Real LD debate, if a Debater does not answer…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Maybe I'm misunderstanding Gene. I'm reading him to say that God partially “CONTROLS” our decision making process – and I believe that to be false. God doesn't want robots, or even partial robots. He wants His children to learn right from wrong, and after doing so, to exercise the FREE WILLS He gave us to choose the right path.…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 12 2010,18:56)“SF………..It is hardly nothing when it involves the very thinking that caused man to separate from GOD in the first place.  I never ever disagree with the fact we all have WILLS now did I?,  What i have over and over disagreed with is the fact that those will are not FREE at ALL. and Have proven it o…[Read more]

To All:Since everyone has been paying alot of attention to this thread, I just wanted to say that i havent paid attentionto any long posts that were directed towards me, i havent had the “Will” (Whether influenced or free or whatever its called-Gene) To Respond, Recently one of my family members past away and I havent really found the “flame” to…[Read more]