Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 18 2010,16:05)Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2010,23:33)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 16 2010,16:33)ED J……….God has (FULL) responsibility  of (ALL) things, and allows what he allows and prevents what He Choses to Prevent.  If you were not a “FREE” WILLER'S You could understand these things , But all “FREE WILLER'S” are a G…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 18 2010,14:05)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 04 2010,17:25)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2010,08:07)Hi SF:You say about the devil:Quote Im asking when did the Devil orginaly fall form his orginal position.  He was once a good cheribum who followed Gods will,When did he fall?What scripture or scriptures support the comment above in…[Read more]

Hi ed J,I agree with Bod,being angry is not a sin. The bible says that, be angry but do not sin,It does not say however that being angry is a sin. the bible also said that Jesus cried.It think this is irrvalent though to the thread so i think this point should be dropped.

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 18 2010,07:34)You asked can a person not sin, I just showed you where God called some people righteous or perfect obviously meaning they acted in the will of God and therefore did not sinalthough someone else may judge these same actions as “sinning”Bod,for the Love of God, why couldnt you just say that. Its simple, now i…[Read more]

Hi numbers,i just realized you already posted once, but never replied.Quote Hebrews 11God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;Verse 2 states: “By whom (Jesus) also…[Read more]

Hi numbers/Marty,I believe your idea is incorrect and not scriptural. please read this thread and make your reply here.i already addressed this point here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=3246

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2010,23:59)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,13:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 15 2010,12:48)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 15 2010,05:50)Kathi said:Quote The Son didn't stop being a son to become a son in the flesh.It was by becoming flesh that Jesus became a Son. Paul said that he was “born according to the seed of David and de…[Read more]

Both of them!

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 18 2010,01:43)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,15:58)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,15:24)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,14:17)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,12:04)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,09:44)bod,2)let me state this again, there are muslims who believed that have nevered sinned. thats a…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 18 2010,02:02)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,16:08)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,15:29)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,14:14)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,02:23)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,00:28)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2010,18:04)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 16 2010,15:08)Bod, doesnt…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 18 2010,05:58)TO SIMPLY FORGIVEN:I can't believe Mike man! Before I debate him again you have to get him honest. Note that he said that the first point of discussion I picked in the debate was “pasa ktisis.” Quote Roo picked the first point of discussion, “pasa ktisis” which grew into including “monogenes”.  This is a…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 22 2010,12:24)Quote (gollamudi @ May 21 2010,16:37)That is an honest confession brother Kerwin, that's why I always like your posts here in this forum. Infact I also have doubts about Jesus' sinlessness. Paul says in Rom 8:3 “For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2010,16:22)Dennison,It is my belief that the Gentile Christian also understood these things though they were taught them after converting.  It would probably be the newer members, if any, that needed things explained to them.kerwin,you can believe that all you want, i respect that. but to hold it has fact or biblical truth…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,15:35)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,14:10)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,13:03)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,07:11)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 11 2010,06:39)When is blood precious?But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.Genesis 9:3-5The blood of the living not…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,15:34)Quote (karmarie @ June 17 2010,14:44)Bod, thats the funniest excuse , your avoiding what I said. No im not, ask anyone who actually knows me, so, the only thing that confuses me is all the debates here. Im new to this, others have been reading the bible 40 years or more, your just saying that because I used…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,15:29)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,14:14)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,02:23)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,00:28)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2010,18:04)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 16 2010,15:08)Bod, doesnt pre-islamic concept of “allah” comes from the moon god of the arabs?No, In-fact…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,15:24)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,14:17)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 17 2010,12:04)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,09:44)bod,2)let me state this again, there are muslims who believed that have nevered sinned. thats a problem.But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice:…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 17 2010,15:23)Dennison,I do not go by any of the books of Enoch we have today nor do the Jews whose beliefs I spoke of since there tenet is based on Old Testiment scripture.  Many of the beliefs expressed by Jesus and his followers are Jewish beliefs from the one true tradition.  If you claim to follow his teachings then y…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2010,14:59)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,14:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2010,12:22)Hi Dennison, Sorry, bro.  There is nothing in those scriptures that says Jesus is this “Son of Man” he keeps talking about in the third person.peace and love,mikeI didnt say that scripture specifically say that Jesus was the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2010,14:59)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2010,14:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2010,12:22)Hi Dennison, Sorry, bro.  There is nothing in those scriptures that says Jesus is this “Son of Man” he keeps talking about in the third person.peace and love,mikeI didnt say that scripture specifically say that Jesus was the…[Read more]