T8,Can he not be his Lord and son thru bloodline? Mary called him Lord, is she not his mother? In that particular verse, it is used by Jesus a few times in the New Testament. Jesus uses that to prove his superiority to all. Just because your superior dosnt mean you are older or came first. Preemience in position is the emphasis, not age. Just…[Read more]

T8,Point taken on that could imply that it is the son of God. Explicitly though we know its a divine being just unsure of who. I have heard the argument from KJV only advocates that it is the son of God. Which they rightfully state because the King James Version does say Son of God instead of Sons of the Gods. I dont think the KJV translated…[Read more]

T8,I agree with you on who this is refering to. But may we keep in mind the dates that Eze. is talking about. He is seeing a vision of the future just as John did. 6th Year etc. I dont have the resources here to look up the scriputures but it seems that he is refering to the end of times. Seven is the number of completness throughout the…[Read more]

T8 and Ramblinrose,I have not forgot about you. I have been busy this week but in the mean time I am putting together some answers for you. I am currently reviewing the pre-exsistance verses that I know of and I will respond with an answer to each verse as a seperate post. Once I reply to each verse that I know of I will post other verses that…[Read more]

I just came across some interesting scriptures, some seem to imply that Jesus is yet to come when GOD was addressing David and others address the firstborn issue. 2 Samuel 7 (NIV)12 When your days are over and you rest with your fathers, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, who will come from your own body, and I will establish his…[Read more]

T8,Concerning the following verse:Hebrews 1:6 (English-NIV) 6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God’s angels worship him." My question that rises to this passage would be if GOD’s angels are to worship him then are the angels first since they are being mentioned?Are the angels a part of…[Read more]

T8,Those scriptures do bring light onto the subject and I am still a little unsure on where I stand with Jesus’s exsistance.  For right now, I am going to play devils advocate and present an argument from another point of view.There can be no doubt that Jesus was unique among all human predecessors. He had no earthy sire. He was the "only…[Read more]

Hello,T8 I enjoy the discussion group and for bringing some questions into light concerning the trinity.  Ramblinrose, I also appreciate your posts for you have also done a very thorough study.  I have to say that I am in agreement that there is one GOD, the father, and one Lord, Jesus Christ.  I do have some questions concerning Jesus and I wo…[Read more]