Quote (t8 @ May 18 2006,10:26)From what I understand Nick, Christadelphians do not believe in anything that requires faith. So that Heaven is nothing but good thoughts, Satan is adversary. That is at least what one Christadelphian lady explained to me along time ago. Not sure if she represented their beliefs accurately however.No, she didn't, and…[Read more]

Hi guysEverything that might come up in this discussion (if I bit) has already been talked about the in the 'fallen angels' thread. But while we're here, I'd recommend people start reading here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan (“The idea of this ultimate agent of evil as the Prince of Darkness was most likely introduced (or strongly influenced)…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2006,18:52)Quote (Sammo @ May 17 2006,12:58)I'm sorry, I didn't explain myself very well, and I hope I didn't come across as sarcastic. What I meant was that Jesus said he came down from heaven as true bread, as opposed to the manna that also came down from heaven (v31).So Jesus only came down from heaven in the same…[Read more]

I'm sorry, I didn't explain myself very well, and I hope I didn't come across as sarcastic. What I meant was that Jesus said he came down from heaven as true bread, as opposed to the manna that also came down from heaven (v31).So Jesus only came down from heaven in the same way that the manna came down from heaven – ie not literally, unless you…[Read more]

Sorry, I made a big mess of that Anyway, what I meant to say was also bear in mind that the Jews agreed that this was a Messianic prophecy (see Matt 2:1-6), and I'm pretty sure they weren't expecting a preexistent Messiah.

Micah 5:2″But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”This is an interesting one… will look at that! Thanks

Quote (Artizan007 @ May 17 2006,08:19)Micah 5:2″But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”This is an interesting one… will look at that! ThanksThis is the NET Bible footnote:sn In riddle-like…[Read more]

Quote (Artizan007 @ May 17 2006,04:58)Sammo,I came across this and thought that you would find it an interesting read on the validity of the LXX ….I did, thanks for posting.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2006,05:48)Quote (Sammo @ May 17 2006,01:15)Spot on! Look at the way the word 'aion' is used elsewhere – it's used in verse 8 of the same chapter:”But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”Is that talking about the literal world that was…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ May 17 2006,07:10)Quote (Sammo @ May 13 2006,03:03)But if you want to be picky, since God is unquestionably in heaven, no, I don't see that much of a difference – neither involve anything literally coming down from heaven to earth.John 6:38-40For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me; and…[Read more]

Spot on! Look at the way the word 'aion' is used elsewhere – it's used in verse 8 of the same chapter:”But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”Is that talking about the literal world that was created in Genesis, or about a period of time?

Hi NickYou've lost me then. What's your point about the same word being used to describe the conceptions of Jesus and John?———————–“John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.”G4413πρῶτοςprōtospro'-tosContracted superlative of…[Read more]

Exactly – so both John and Jesus began to exist when they were conceived, right?

Quote (Artizan007 @ May 16 2006,12:50)Back to the topic I digressed – sorry:Why does John 1 have to be The Word and not the word. The word was spoken and it became flesh in the past (not human but a creature), God breathed and that breath “became” a living creature in the past – God's word is an active, creative force – the word of God created the…[Read more]

Surprisingly no – it's very readable

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 16 2006,08:45)Quote (Sammo @ May 16 2006,07:39)It's usually a quote from the Septuagint in those cases, although probably you already knew that. Certainly raises its own questions about how inspired the Seputuagint is though, doesn't it (Am open to ideas.)Hi SammoHere's a few:1. Jesus didn't seem to have an issue with it, the…[Read more]

Hi Artizan007Quote (Artizan007 @ May 16 2006,07:22)Some are simply way out… ie: Heb 1:7 cf Deut 32:43 (nothing like that in my TNIV or NKJV)It's usually a quote from the Septuagint in those cases, although probably you already knew that. Certainly raises its own questions about how inspired the Seputuagint is though, doesn't it (Am open to…[Read more]

Hi Artizan007You're on the right track Here are a few questions that might help you gather your thoughts – they all have very easy answers, but this is as complicated as it needs to get!Why is Jesus called “the Son of God”?In that case, where in the Bible do we read about the birth of Jesus?And when was that?Based on a natural, simple reading of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2006,03:42)Hi Sammo, Man was created from dust.Then God blew into Him the breath of God and he became a living being.He is body, soul and spirit according to 1Thessso soul and spirit come from the breath of God which Adam and Eve passed on through the generations.Hi NickWell, exactly – surely Adam didn't exist before…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2006,02:38)Men have soul and spirit within their earthly bodies from before birth.Hi NickWhat exactly do you mean when you say that?