NickQuote Sorry that was Rev 21.8 and 20.14. We know this fire is eternal from Rev 20.10 but is the Second death eternal for man? Rev 21.8 would suggest so as it suggests a state rather than an event. I have bit of an idea of where this could be leading but to be sure I would appreciate it if you would post your response, to the question you…[Read more]

28 “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the life. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both life and body in hell.NickI gather from your posts that ‘life’ means eternal life with the Father. If you have your name in the Book of Life you will receive this life . It would not make much sense for God to destroy those tha…[Read more]

NickQuote All these references to LIFE ,as far as I can see, are “Zoe” rather than “Psuche” wherever they occur in the NT. Book of LIFE Crown of LIFE Water of LIFE Tree of LIFE Eternal LIFEDo you see what I am getting at?It is also used in the following:Luke 12:15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a…[Read more]

To NickQuote So do you say these terms are equivalent too, natural life and eternal life?? Quote So it seems that while psuche can mean 'life' it can never mean 'eternal life' as your reference claims. Do you agree?Revelation 2:7  “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to eat from…[Read more]

Quote http://www.british-israel.ca/life%20and%20death.pdf Now Jesus made the statement in Matthew 10:28: “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell .” Now the Assyrian or the Beast will be thrown into the Gahenna fire, see Rev 20:10. The Greek…[Read more]

Quote why would you choose the obscure meaning5590    AV – soul 58, life 40, mind 3, heart 1, heartily + 1537 1, not tr 2; 105As you can see above, has been translated as ‘life’ 40 times and as ‘soul’ 58 times – I wouldn't have thought this to be an obscure translation.Quote I see you translated “Soul” as “Life “The same greek word is used in M…[Read more]

Matt 10.28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul : but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell .Luke 12:4-5And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which…[Read more]

NickI will not summarise or correct. The articles speak for themselves.  I posted them for readers to glean understanding.  Just because you don’t agree with them doesn’t mean others won’t find them interesting.

Articles in regard to 1 Peter 3:18http://personales.com/mexico/guadalajara/RV1960/spp.htmhttp://www.biblicalstudies.com/bstudy/expostudy/prison1.htm

John 6:46  Not that any man hath seen the Father save he which is of God , he hath seen the Father.GREEK LEXICON2316 yeov theos theh’-os 1) a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities 2) the Godhead, trinity 2a) God the Father, the first person in the trinity 2b) Christ, the second person of the trinity 2c) Holy Spirit, the third pe…[Read more]

John 6:46 “Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen  the Father.Greek Lexicon  1) to see with the eyes 2) to see with the mind, to perceive, know3) to see, i.e. become acquainted with by experience, to experience 4) to see, to look to 4a) to take heed, beware 4b) to care for, pay heed to 5) I was seen, showed m…[Read more]

t8We interpret scripture differently because of what we each believe.  This will not change, no matter how many verses we throw at eachother.  I will defend what I believe just as you will defend what you believe.  Conflict is the only thing that will result and I value the friendship that we have established too much to go down that road.Nick Ha…[Read more]

t8 & NickWhy is it that you only address posts to me regarding the pre-existence of Yahshua when Adam Pastor has the same belief as I do?Quote Like I said, I apologize if I have misunderstood your argument. Oh BTW, I fully agree that Christ did not pre-exist his conception.

Quote I agree that Christ is both the root and the offspring of David, but it appears that you are the one who does not. How can Christ be the root of David if he is only his offspring?The root comes before the branch and supports the branch.Quote I am sure that your theology has a way to explain away the root but keeping the offspring as you…[Read more]

If you were walking in an unknown country, and lost your way, and you asked 24 people for directions and 22 said one way and 2 said the other – which way would you go? You have said that you believe the versus I posted are truth. So why accuse me of false doctrine?On one hand you have said you accept these verses but on the other hand you have…[Read more]

Honestly Nick, Stop skirting around the versus at hand and give me an answer. 22 passages, all from different parts of the bible, both OT and NT, all in agreement. I believe they speak truth, do you?

To Nick HQuote Great work RR,The only problem is that Joseph, the offspring of David, was not the genetic father of Jesus although as his parent he fulfilled the prophecy. So if Jesus had inherited human genes they could only come through Mary? ?How do you so easily dismiss all the following verses, like shewing away an anoying fly, for the sake…[Read more]

Quote It is someone who doesn't care who says it doesn't matter. Come now t8, when did I say ‘it didn’t matter’, I said ‘Discussion would prove quite fruitless when our beliefs differ this much’What I said is true. How can you believe that Yahshua was born of the seed of Joseph when you believed he was a pre-existing being? How can he be just a…[Read more]

I will end my discussion on the birth of Yahshua Messiah.  * You believe that Jesus is the Word in John 1* You believe that Jesus pre-existed* You believe that Jesus created the world* You believe that Jesus is the (offspring) Son of God- I believe that the word in John 1 is YHWH’s great plan/what he said.- I do not believe that Jesus pr…[Read more]

To Adam PastorYou have twisted my words to please your own ears.Quote They are only considered to be carrying 'a seed' when with child, which means they first had to have sexual relations with a man to receive the seed.Next time quote all my words.