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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,12:41)Irene,Please tell me who this is that is called Jehovah in this passage…<>American Standard Version 1And Jehovah appeared unto him by the oaks of Mamre, as he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; 2and he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood over against him: and when he saw them,…[Read more]

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    Kathi!  When you see LORD in all capital letters in the Old Test. and there are some Scrip0tures, it is Jehovah God, and it is one person.  Look in worship I explained it, I am not going to repeat myself….Irene

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    Kathi! Psa 83:18   That may know that thou, whose name alone JEHOVAH, the most high over all the earth.  Taken of the blue letter bible on the Internet. Not all Bibles have Jehovah written, instead it says LORD.  We have a Rye Study Bible and it says also Jehovah God.  In the footnotes of the Rye Study Bible it states that the translatores mos…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,06:33)No Irene, that was not the question.  I asked where does it say that we are one with the Father.Jehovah God is two persons.  Deut 10:17 and 1 Cor 8:6 tells you who Jehovah God is…both the Father and the Son.  The Son says that He and the Father are one.  That is TWO persons that are ONE Irene and we can be…[Read more]

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    Kathi! Your claim about Jehovah is not according to any Scripture. Jehovah God is one God.Psa 83:18 That may know that thou, whose name alone JEHOVAH, the most high over all the earth. Now if you know of a Scripture that says otherwise, then claim it.As far as our other disagreement goes, reading it again you say either or visa…[Read more]

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    Quote Pierre,Men or women having poor education and communication skills hardly proves that they carry the spirit of truth.  It is not a prerequisite to speak poorly in order to have truth. You said that those who have poor education, hardly carry the spirit of truth.  OK what do you mean by that?  Is it that they don't have the spirit of tr…[Read more]

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    Kathi! Here you go again. Jehovah God is one person, not two. Yes it says us, but the question was if the Father is in Jesus or us, was it not? We are united with Jesus and His Father by Jehovah Gods Holy Spirit, that dwells in all born again Christians. We are the adopted Sons of God…. Jesus is the begotten Son of God. Irene

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 29 2011,16:05)Pierre,Men or women having poor education and communication skills hardly proves that they carry the spirit of truth.  It is not a prerequisite to speak poorly in order to have truth.  Also, it is certainly not true to say that learned men and women can't have truth because they speak well and are highly e…[Read more]

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    Kathi!  This Scripture does state that the Father is in Jesus, as we will be also….Jhn 17:21   That they all may be one; as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.  Why are you denying this?Peace and Love Irene

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ July 30 2011,02:29)My Mom had a seizure this morning (blood sugar too low) and they've rushed her to the hospital (she's 750 mile away). I would appreciate your prayers.WmWm, will pray for Her. I am a Diabetic and I know how bad it can get. How low was Her Glucose level? Mine as been as low as 54. But never had Seizures.…[Read more]

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    Quote . But Genesis 5:1-2 says that God called their NAME “Adam”KJYet in Gen 3:20 ¶ And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.  She is called Eve.

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    Quote (942767 @ July 29 2011,04:27)Quote (Pastry @ July 29 2011,00:28)Marty!  Not all unfortunately believe in the healing power of God, and are out in the world…. Cindy's Friend I don't even know, I am just asking others to pray for His 15 year old Daughter…. Can you do that??? Gods will be done always….. Peace and Love IreneHi Irene:I can…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ July 28 2011,20:19)To all.Have you heard of the hypothosis that Wisdom is the firstborn daughter of the old creation.It is in part based on Proverns 8:22-27 and the fact Wisdom(chokmah) is a feminime noun and it has been around since at least 4th or 5th Century B.C. according to what I have heard.Was Jesus born before…[Read more]

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    Marty! Not all unfortunately believe in the healing power of God, and are out in the world…. Cindy's Friend I don't even know, I am just asking others to pray for His 15 year old Daughter…. Can you do that??? Gods will be done always….. Peace and Love Irene

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ July 27 2011,16:06)Quote (kerwin @ July 27 2011,08:36)To all,The Spirit of God came before Jesus and without the Spirit Jesus could do nothing.It is the Spirit of God and not Jesus that is recorded as being present at the old creation.To all,If anyone disagress with my points I would liike to know why they disagree.  Thank…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 4 months ago

    Yet that Word of God will come again, and these Scriptures prove it.Rev 19:13 And he clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Rev 19:14 And the armies in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 26 2011,14:26)That is very sad Irene.  I will pray for Courtney.  I have a friend in her late 50's and just found out that she has Lou Gehrig's Disease.  Please pray for her.  She is a dear and is so discouraged but trusts God and thanks Him in all things.God bless,KathiKathi! Will pray for Her too…. Gearing's Dis…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ July 26 2011,08:12)Irene,The unity that we are in is called the “Church” or the “body of Christ.”The unity that the Father and Son are in is called “Jehovah” or “Jehovah our God” or “Jehovah God.”Quote 1Cr 15:28   And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all…[Read more]

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    To all! Our Daughter just asked me to ask for prayers for Her Friends Daughter. Her name is Courtney. She is 15 years old and has Leukemia. She will have to have Chemo for 2 1/2 years in order to live 5 more years. Thank you…..Peace and Love Irene

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    Kathi! OK so we do agree that there is only one Jehovah God….. But why do you want to now say that Jesus is Jehovah God also??? He is not. He is His Son Lord of Lords and King of Kings. While Almighty Jehovah God is the only one that has that name. Since we also are in unity with God, does that now mean we too are by that name Jehovah???…[Read more]

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