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    Happy Birthday Keith….. I have sought God ever since I was a little girl of 8…. it was after the war and they said the world was coming to an end, so I went into a clover field and lay-ed down and looking into the sky I said:' Here I am God, I am ready for you.” It has been a long time. God was not always on my mind also, especially in the…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 03 2011,16:47)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 02 2011,19:44)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,16:47)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 01 2011,12:36)Kerwin!  So you believe that Angels are in Heaven with flesh an blood?  That is not what Scripture says.  1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nei…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2011,04:38)IreneKathi does not believe that Christ was created ,and so deny scripturesPierreHi Pierre! Kathi believes that Jesus always existed in the mind of Hos Father… Wrong….He existed as a Spirit Being before He became a man, I know, but She doesn't…..Peace and Love to you and yours Irene

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,15:54)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 01 2011,12:50)KerwinCol 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:   Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things we…[Read more]

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    Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 01 2011,10:52)I agree with Mike and Pierre that Angels are Spirit Beings.  However they can manifest them self as a Human Being, to help those here on earth.  I speak out of experience….. Two Angels walked away from our Granddaughter when She was only two years old.  Some thought it ironic that they did not help Her,  B…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 03 2011,16:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 03 2011,07:40)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 01 2011,23:44)Paul wrote he was unsure whether a man entered the third heaven in body or out and if he was as sure as you insist then he would not have said he was unsure.Hi Kerwin,Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.  Now, could God bring…[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 03 2011,20:03)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 03 2011,01:08)Paladin!  Maybe you are confused because you don't understand that Jesus was the firstborn OF ALL CREATION…. Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  Rev 3:14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These thi…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2011,00:26)Irene,you say:Quote you have no Scripture to support that theory…..You have seen the scripture, written the scripture, recited the scripture, pointed others to the scripture, yet you do not understand the scripture…six simple words:John 10:30 “I and the Father are one.”One unity, not one being, not one per…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2011,11:15)Pierre,The Father is one God.The Son is one Lord.Together they make Jehovah our God…one unity.Kathi! Again, and again you have no Scripture to support that theory…..Irene

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    Yes, Kathi, it is the Ryrie of the King James Version.  But whatever it says there, does not take away from all other Scriptures in Psalms.  Psa 83:18   That may know that thou, whose name alone JEHOVAH, the most high over all the earth.  Kathi, here it says it is the most high Gods name.  And who is the most high, it is our Heavenly Fath…[Read more]

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    Paladin!  Maybe you are confused because you don't understand that Jesus was the firstborn OF ALL CREATION…. Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  Rev 3:14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the cre…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 1 month ago

    Kerwin! Since Jesus was with His Father in the beginning of His days, how can He be a physical Son with Spirit in Him, if that is what you are implying????You see in the beginning there was no earth…. God created all through Jesus.Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Col 1:16 For by him…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,16:47)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 01 2011,12:36)Kerwin!  So you believe that Angels are in Heaven with flesh an blood?  That is not what Scripture says.  1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.  Peace and Love Iren…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,12:38)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 01 2011,19:06)Even though the Church in Biblical terms is a  She, to me it is not.Hi Irene,In the passage to which Kathi refers, the KJV calls the church “IT”, not “SHE” like some of the other translations.The Greek language, like many languages, has some words that are “feminine”, and…[Read more]

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    t8  In the Old Testament it is LORD which stands for Jehovah God.  And Lord is Jesus always.  In our Rye Study Bible in the footnotes it says that LORD in all capital letters is Jehovah God one person our Heavenly Fathers name. The translators used LORD because they didn't want to take Gods name in vain.  The unity spoken of in Scriptures mea…[Read more]

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    Quote Now you can see that personal singular pronouns can be used to refer to a compound unity.  With this truth, you might be able to see that Jehovah is a compound unity of more than one person.  Your verses do not contradict that the name 'Jehovah' could be the name of the compound unity of the Father and the Son.  Your verses express a on…[Read more]

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    Kathi!  Kathi!  It is that important that the Church si a She>>>> Ok She is a She…… Are you satisfied?  Now to Jehovah God these are the Scriptures that tells us YOU are wrong….Are you going to admit that the Scriptures are right and you are wrong, because of the Scriptures you ARE wrong…Psa 83:18   That may know that thou, whose name alo…[Read more]

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    If I remember right the trinity is three persons in one. I unfortunately taught all of our four Children the trinity a long time ago… The Holy Spirit is not a person, it is the Spirit of Jehovah God…. 1Jo 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: Gen 1:2 And the…[Read more]

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    Kathi! Why is it so important to you whether I agree that the Church is a She or not. The Churches today are not the Church Jesus is head of. That Church is yet to come. Most worldly Churches all believe in the trinity, which I don't believe in.Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching doctrines the commandments of men.The trinity…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 1 month ago

    KerwinCol 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Col 1:17 And he is before all…[Read more]

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