Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 07 2011,02:39)Quote (princess @ Aug. 05 2011,23:51)Irene,To ask KJ, the cannon states that Jesus is God, surely you do not find it impossible for one to interpret the cannon this way.Hi Princess,There is nothing in the canon to suggest what Jack or Kathi or Keith believe.  That is why it is so amazing to some of us.Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 04 2011,02:32)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,15:54)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 01 2011,12:50)KerwinCol 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:   Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or pr…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 06 2011,16:29)Irene,I wish to go over the wording of first sentence in 1 Corinthians 15:50Quote 1 Corinthians 15:50King James Version (KJV) 50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.You keep stating it states “enter” and it does not.  The…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Aug. 06 2011,16:51)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 06 2011,12:41)Quote (princess @ Aug. 06 2011,09:34)Quote Two Jehovah's are working in Genesis 19:24Quote Our God and our Lord are not like the ancient pagan hierarchies.Technially they are, Vishnu and Shiva are considered and acknowedge the same way, I believe that the egyptians had many of…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 06 2011,02:14)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2011,18:48)PrincessQuote It has been noted that this forum would have no light in it without trinity/binity believers, only one way to find out. how is that ?PierreI said it and it is the truth. Kathi, Keith and myself give this forum light. This forum would be all darkness…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Aug. 06 2011,09:34)Quote Two Jehovah's are working in Genesis 19:24Quote Our God and our Lord are not like the ancient pagan hierarchies.Technially they are, Vishnu and Shiva are considered and acknowedge the same way, I believe that the egyptians had many of the same.But not according to Scriptures…. and that is what is…[Read more]

Hbr 1:8   But unto the Son , Thy throne, O God, for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness the sceptre of thy kingdom.   Hbr 1:9   Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.   Hbr 1:10   And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foun…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 06 2011,01:17)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 05 2011,12:52)Jack! How wrong can you get.  How about what t8 wrote this Scripture in particularLuk 1:32   He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:  Jesus is the Son of the most Highest, and tr…[Read more]

Quote John 1King James Version (KJV)12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Quote Romans 8:15King James Version (KJV)15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again…[Read more]

Jack! How wrong can you get. How about what t8 wrote this Scripture in particularLuk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: Jesus is the Son of the most Highest, and true God…. He will give Jesus the throne of his father David….Iren

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2011,12:23)Irene,Jehovah is both God AND Lord, not just God.Who is our ONE Lord, Irene?1Cr 8:6   But to us one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom all things, and we by him. KathiKathi! In the Old Testament it says LORD, which according to the footnotes is Jehovah…[Read more]

Marty! Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. What does this Scripture tell you? Jesus is the firstborn of many brethren…. you can't get away from that….. We are called to understand more then anyone else….. even though we grow…[Read more]

Kathi!  I said this before, I don't care what you call the Church, its not important to me.  What is more important to me that you believe that you think that Jesus also is Jeho0vah Gosd.  That is totally wrong according to Scripture inPsa 83:18   That may know that thou, whose name alone JEHOVAH, the most high over all the earth.  Psa 68:4…[Read more]

Shimmer!  Let me ask you a question.  Did all the Pharisees because the didn't believe Jesus committed the unpardonable Sin?  I don't think so…… If I am enlightened by the Holy Spirit and then go against that, that is going against the Holy Spirit of God, that is the unpardonable Sin.  Like they believed Jesus first and then they didn't and…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 02 2011,20:44)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2011,19:36) Paladin; this is good ,but did you not forgot what happen to Abraham and Issac his son first born and at that time the only son he had ,this was the shadow of Christ ,no??PierreWhat are you talking about?Ishmael was Abraham's firstborn son, “And Hagar bare Abram a son: and…[Read more]

Scripture say that there is a natural body and there is a Spiritual Body….. Who knows what the difference is?  They are not the same, because it says and there is…1Cr 15:42 So also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 1Cr 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown…[Read more]

Quote I believe there are some scriptures that some believe infer that Jesus a Spirit being but I do not see them the same way. At this moment that is a distraction from the issue of whether you agree that Jesus is a son of God's spirit?Kerwin! Jesus is the firstborn of ALL CREATION. That means that He existed before even the earth or time or…[Read more]

Quote Irene,I believe that what I stated means the same thing but I used different words.  If it does not then I am not catching the difference between a human body and a flesh and bone body. Please let me know if you know of such a difference.Kerwin!  I did not say flesh and bone, I said flesh and blood body.   There is no such a thing as fl…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2011,12:51)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 02 2011,21:29)Hi:This is what the scriptures state:Quote 1Cr 15:21   For since by man death, by man also the resurrection of the dead. Sin entered by a man, and sin was atoned for, (and the resurrection was guaranteed), by a man.  Where does that say Jesus is STILL a man in h…[Read more]

Quote Irene,QuoteKathi believes that Jesus always existed in the mind of Hos Father.Kathi!  I do remember you saying something like that, just don't remember where you said that….if I find the post, I will bring it up….But if not Sorry…..Also Yahweh is the Hebrew name for Jehovah God…. One name, one God one Eternal God, our Heavenly…[Read more]