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    Kerwin, then God became flesh? Because the Holy Spirit is of God and not that His Spirit is a separate being from God…. it is part of God…. verse 14 tells us that The Word of God also is the only begotten of the Father, so it cannot be the Holy Spirit of God, it makes no sense…IN John 1 are two beings presented not one….since the Holy…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin! Hbr 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hbr 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Hbr 1:8 But unto the Son , Thy throne, O God, for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness the…[Read more]

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    Quote That's all right Irene, you are not addressing any of mine to you.Back to top Paladin! What question???

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    Ed and Kerwin think John 1:1 is speaking of Gods Holy Spirit…. Yet it clearly says in Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, AND THE WORD was with God, and the Word was God. Jhn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. Those are two beings and not one… The W ord of God was with God….Rev. 19:13-16 explains who The Word of God is……[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 24 2011,07:02)The Holy Spirit is part of God, and not a separate part, that you can say He….  The Holy Spirit is not a He but it…. John 14:26 “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 23 2011,13:13)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 23 2011,13:54)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2011,15:56)GeorgQuote Now, if you don't know that the Lion represents Babylon, then I suggest you check your history first before continuing. could you guide me in finding this answer ?PierreCheck the internet for “ANCIENT BABYLON”Georggeorgfound…[Read more]

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    Quote From this we know that it is true that no one but the Spirit of God has seen God. Kerwin!  What are you saying here?  The Holy Spirit is part of God, and not a separate part, that you can say He…. That is part of the trinity doctrine… You believe in that doctrine?  The Holy Spirit is not a He but it….It is talking about Jesus who is th…[Read more]

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    SOMEBODY BIGGER THAN YOU AND I       Who made the mountain, who made the tree,       Who made the river flow nto the sea,       And who made the moon in the starry sky?       Someone bigger than you and I…        Who made the flowers bloom in the spring,        Who writes the song for the robins to sing,        And who sends the rain when the…[Read more]

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    Kathi!     King James Version (KJV) Psa 83:18   That may know that thou, whose name alone JEHOVAH, the most high over all the earth.  KJVPsa 83:18 Then they will learn that you alone are called the LORD, that you alone are the Most High, supreme over all the earth.  New International Version (NIV)Psa 83:18 Let them know that you, whose name…[Read more]

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    Quote Just as the living Father sent me, the incarnate Son, and I the incarnate Son live because of the Father….”Jack! But the Scripture Mike quoted does not say what you just did…… Jhn 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. Jhn 6:58 This is that bread which…[Read more]

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    Kathi! If Almighty God is the Head of Jesus then how can they be the same Jehovah God? There are to many Scriptures that proof otherwise…1Cr 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman the man; and the head of Christ God. Even by Jesus own words He said that His Father is greater then He…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin!   The only begotten of the Father is The Word of God…. John 1:14 says so..And then John said thisJhn 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. .And you want us to believe that the Spirit of God died???? how ridiculous is…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 23 2011,12:19)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 22 2011,14:11)Whether my understanding of John's words are correct or not, I will assure you God testifies that:1. The Word of God is God because it is his Word.2. The Word of God is with God because the Spirit of God is with God and reveals the Word of God.  3. The Word was made human…[Read more]

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    Hey Mike! Don't you know that the Catholic Church scarifies Jesus each time they say the Mass. And then the transform the bread and wine into the body and blood of Jesus, and call it Communion….It is an abomination to God……. Peace Irene

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin! Still The Word of God who is the only begotten Son of God, became flesh….He became flesh, He was there with God in the beginning…. He was there in the beginning with God…..The Holy Spirit of God has nothing to do with it…..Jhn 1:1 In beginning was the Word, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, and the Word was God. Jhn 1:2 He was in the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 23 2011,10:56)Mike, The context talks about 'eating' Him and that refers to His flesh body.NASB ©”As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also will live because of Me.1 Cor 11:24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2011,11:04)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 22 2011,05:49)Terricca……….Why lie,  you do not accept this, that Jesus “is (THE) (a definite article), SON of MAN”. You believe he was a morphed angel it seem you cant make up you mind what Jesus was right?  Pierre a Definite article in English means that is exactly what J…[Read more]

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    Pastry replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 23 2011,07:11)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 23 2011,00:59)Kerwin!  You say a lot, but very seldom does that go with any Scripture….. Your own doctrine…. And you have not yet explains who it is in John 1:14 who the only begotten of the Father is?  There is no way that is Gods Ho;y Spirit…..The Word of God who became flesh and is t…[Read more]

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    Kathi!   Jesus is in Heaven right now seated at the right hand of His father.  Jesus will begin His rule of the Kingdom when He returns….. Having power and ruling is two different things to me….Now about he different versions of the Bible … I looked on the Blue letter Bible site, and looked up some other versions.  I was rather surprised to…[Read more]

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    Quote Irene,Lucifer was a master piece of God.He was on the mountain of God.He was responsible from earth and its degraded angels.But he protested with God and wanted to be the founder of evil creatures,as a challenge to God to make Him start His kingdom from the opposite direction.From the bottom of filth up.God sent him to earth to do so ,but to…[Read more]

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