Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 18 2006,08:12)Hi 94, You say”Hi sscott:The concept of God covceiving His Son was with Him in beginning and the Spirit that He would form in His Son through obedience to his Word was with him in the beginning, but as 1 Peter 1:20 states: “Who was verily foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 18 2006,17:28)Hi Oxy, You compare God with the Body of Christ?But we are in Christ so are we part of God too?You are once again putting your own interpreation on what I have written Nick. Please read again what I wrote.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 19 2006,02:45)Hi Oxy , When the light of the daystar really does start to shine in your heart he will reflect fully the meaning of Scripture to you. Till then if you rely on the written Word you will see that light grow. 2Peter 1″ 19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 19 2006,03:28)Hi Oxy, Godhead?Is this committee God described in the bible?Try Colossians 2:9, but wait, there's probably something wrong with that verse! (AMP) For in Him the whole fullness of Deity (the Godhead) continues to dwell in bodily form . (ESV) For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, (KJV+)…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 19 2006,02:48)Let's test the theory that Jesus is part of God.John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.translates as:John 3:16For the Father, Son, Holy Spirit so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 18 2006,17:36)Hi Oxy, The Word had glory of his own seen on the mountain and testified to by John and Peter. At that time he was seen with Moses and Elijah and not as part of God. God spoke about him at that time. God does not share His glory with another so that fits too.So the Word who was with God was not also in God…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 18 2006,18:38)Quote (Oxy @ Nov. 17 2006,05:33)Joh 17:5  And now Father, glorify Me with Yourself with the glory which I had with You before the world was. And this was His former glory..Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:2  He was in the beginning with God. So wh…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Nov. 17 2006,04:08)Quote (sscott @ Nov. 15 2006,22:10)It seems like Jesus is only called the Son in relation to Him being born of Mary and durring his time on earth.  Is there anytime He is called the Son before his birth with Mary?Hi sscott:The concept of God covceiving His Son was with Him in beginning and the Spirit that He…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 17 2006,10:39)Conscience is made up of “con” & “science”.Con=with. In Spanish you can say “cafe con leche”, i.e., coffee WITH milk.Science=knowledge.So if we are talking of conscience we are talking of knowledge. Knowledge of what? Knowledge of the Law of God.Romans 2:14-1514 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by…[Read more]

John 1:1 (thoughtfull pause) lolOk, the Word was with God and was God.Then He was born as the Son of God, being made a little lower than the angels Heb 2:9But im John 17:5 He prayed And now Father, glorify Me with Yourself with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

Wow, that was some explaination Cubes. We know the famous John 1 where it is stated that the Word (Jesus) was with God and the Word was God.Then we see where He was born, firstborn of God, Son of God. The Bible says Heb 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor,…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 17 2006,08:23)I believe that saying Jesus is God is like saying you've captured the sun in a picture it will look like it but it is so much more. While Jesus is the image of the Father, He is not the Father.Very true. how can the Door to the Father be the Father? The answer is that He can't be. We seem to be going round…[Read more]

Ummm I think you will find Cubes is a sister.. lol

Joh 17:5 And now Father, glorify Me with Yourself with the glory which I had with You before the world was. And this was His former glory..Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God. So what is the conclusion we must come to?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2006,04:35)Hi 94, God is Spirit. His Son is begotten in His image. God's Spirit was not with Him any more than we are with our fingers.God is Spirit, yes, but the Holy Spirit is different, an identity in Himself, as is Jesus.Otherwise it makes no sense that the Father sent the Holy Spirit. Why wouldn't Scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2006,04:04)Good stuff Oxy,All natural men are under the power of the god of this world from the rebellion of our father Adam. Only grace can allow us to respond and repent.2 Timothy 2:25In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the…[Read more]

I totally agree Nick.I have a page called Beyond Pentecost which portrays the diffence in the relationship before and after the Jordan. It can be found on http://www.all4god.net/beyond_pentecost.htmAlso on http://www.all4god.net/journey.htm

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2006,04:41)Hi Oxy, Once we are established in the Son it is natural to let the sap flow from the vine through us and we must oppose nature to not produce fruit.Yeah well I have a problem in that, according to the pastor of our church, I can't keep my mouth shut lol. But he assures me that it is a good thing! lol

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2006,00:49)Hi, Well the other one is the folk that say they have made Jesus their Lord and Saviour. Others boast of the powers they show as proof.Sorry folks that is not the way and the ones not properly attired at the wedding feast have no place there. That is as Jesus said Matt 7″ 21Not every one that saith unto me,…[Read more]

My point is that even though I had known God, had I not come back to Him, salvation would not have been mine.It is a falasy to think once saved always saved.