OneLadyBand replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 5 months ago
Mary>> Recall Jesus' heartfelt prayer throughout John 17 where he began “Father…”In the course of that chapter, Jesus asks HIS GOD/Father to allow him, after his earthly life is done, to merely gain back the same position he had in heaven before he came to earth. For his faithfulness, of course, HIS GOD/Father gave him more than he had…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 5 months ago
——————————————————————————–Nick Hassan writes:Hi Casiphus,Indeed the trinity doctrine, which never appeared in any of the sacred writings, has continued to evolve ever since it appeared 200 years or so after Christ. Both facts argue against it having any origin in God at all. Mary>>>I couldn't…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic When Begotten? in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Oxy @ Nov. 21 2006,05:53) I think it's interesting that God foreknew people. In other words, we were known of God before birth, yet before birth we were no man's son.Rom 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be the First-born among many brothers. BTW, The same goes for Jesus…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Nimrod's trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition 17 years, 5 months ago
Nick Hassan: How the (pagan!) trinity has been adopted by all Christians Mary>>>Yes, it has.I was readig in your article, and did a modicum of research and found your green website where you got all that information.One thing that piqued my interest in what you posted was the “IHS.”They claim that is the first THREE letters of Jesus' name?Why…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
Quote (OneLadyBand @ July 19 2007,02:32) On another topic:Does anyone else have trouble with the words on the screen keeping up with your typing? I constantly have to go back and make corrections where letters are left out, becaue it just can't seem to keep up. Irritating. : ) I haven't noticed. Perhaps you are a much faster typer than me…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
kejohn:John was speaking in 1:7. No reason to assume that this verse belongs to Yeshua, especially since “Almighty” was never attributed to him.Mary>>>Heartily agreed that the term “Almighty” has NEVER been applied to Jesus Christ. He is “Mighty” bute is NOT “All-mighty.”KEJ>Quote Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
CB writes:NWT II Cor 3:17Now Jehovah is the Spirit; and where the spirit of Jehovah is, there is freedom.Mary>>>Does this sound unreasonable or contradictory to you, considering how JWs (since you quoted the NWT above) view Almighty God?Think about it:Of course Jehovah (AlmightyGod, the God of the Jews) “IS” the Spirit. That spirit is his…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
t8Yes it is very pridefull to hold on to a belief that says “God” made all things through a “lessor being” “or a “smaller god' than himself when scriptures are clear that “by himself”, “alone” he made all things!Mary>>>How is it prideful, WJ? The very context of Jn 1:1 demands that Jesus be understood to NOT be the “God” whom he was “with.”…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4:4 And they shall turn away ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Haha, what's funny about this post is quoting 2 Timothy 4:3-4. The Trinity doctrine was…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
Quote:Hi Is 1:18 According to your post he is either God or a false God… what happened to Son of God??HugsPhoenix Mary>>I agree. The idea that if Jesus is not Almighty God then he must be a “false god” is terribly misleading and ignorant of what the scriptures teach regarding the truly broad usage of the word “god”.According to Vine's, the term…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
Please let me clarify one thing further on the “alone” and “by myself” question:YHWH did create the universe “alone” and “by himself” in that it was HIS POWER ALONE, and HIS AUTHORITY ALONE which accomplished the task.However, other scriptures do say that the world was made “through” Jesus Christ.In the doing, Jesus was the instrument HIS…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
(OneLadyBand) I read where someone mentioned how the universe was created, citing the scripture that said YHWH did it “alone.” In my endeavor to understand the context of the Bible as a whole, having once been a trinity-believer and since then studied many translations and come to the conclusion against the doctrine, I consider how Almighty God…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
Quote Nick Hassan Hi and welcome OLB,We did have one trinitarian who said when you pray you never know whicjh member of the trinity would take the call!It is a load of cobblers and a distraction from good bible learning Going by the way some pray due to Trinity indoctrination, it seems to be the case from what I have observed. Mary>> So,…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
I read where someone mentioned how the universe was created, citing the scripture that said YHWH did it “alone.” In my endeavor to understand the context of the Bible as a whole, having once been a trinity-believer and since then studied many translations and come to the conclusion against the doctrine, I consider how Almighty God could have…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
The scriptures you quote are post ressurection, after his coming in the flesh.You make inference again. You have no scripture that says Jesus was a “man” with God from eternity!Mary>>>I would disagree with Jesus being a man from his coming into being as well. There are no flesh and blood “men” in heaven, only spirit beings.WJ>You betray your own…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
“PROSKUNEO” usage:The Greek word proskuneo, rendered “worship” at Hebrews 1:6, is used at Psalm 97:7 in the Septuagint for the Hebrew term, “sha·chah´”, which means “to bow down.” Bowing down is an acceptable and expected act showing respect for other men. (Genesis 23:7; 1 Samuel 24:8; 2 Kings 2:15) Or it can relate to worship of the true God. I…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
Your doctrine does not align with the Monotheistic Hebrew scriptures.There is no other “god” beside him t8.Look…WJ>Isa 43:10Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.Mary>>The scriptures…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
I want to expound just a bit on something I said earlier, which is an important point AGAINST the EQUALTY of the triune-God doctrine.In John 20:17, Jesus uses the term, “MY GOD,” and “MY FATHER,” showing that he HAS A GOD, just like you and I.Are WE equal to the one WE address as “MY GOD”? Of course not, and neither is Jesus.Some may object that…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
NHWJ-There is only “One God”. Mary> One ALMIGHTY God, agreed, and that “one” ALMIGHTY God is a singular being, according to Hebrew teaching and first century Christian teaching.WJ>Since we know that God is Spirit Mary>>Yes, the Bible says that God is A Spirit, meaning a spirit BEING: see John 4:24 KJV. He is A spirit, a singular being, one…[Read more]
OneLadyBand replied to the topic Trinity – t8's proof text #1 in the forum Debates 17 years, 5 months ago
Hi W,Luke 4 1And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness If Jesus was the Spirit was he filled with himself? OLB/Mary> An excellent question. However, in speaking with trinitarians over the years, they will respond to you that Jesus ISN”T the Father, or the Spirit, but is himself…[Read more]
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