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Haha, Ed, who was ~JOANNA~ ? hmmmm i wonder ? still, got kathi talking didnt I ?

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Hi there ! KATHI…………………….

I enjoyed reading what you wrote above………………. thanks !……………….. I will take a look at what you have suggested there !

From ~JO~

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HI……Ed J

Cool. What is this you are saying here ? I'm not Quite understanding you !

Thanks…….. ~Joanna~

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Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 19 2010,11:42)

Quote (OneDay @ Nov. 19 2010,07:20) Hello. We MUST obey God. If Jesus says you MUST, then you MUST…………………………. 1. Love God 2. Love one another First is true repentance. When we repent of sin, we are deeply sorrowfull for having transgressed God’s law……………………. We no longer have a hostile attitude toward God and Have respect and obediance. We no longer have a carnal attitude that is enmity………………………….. After repentance, we are in harmony with God’s law of love………………………………… Repentance brings a deep change in our thinking, and a commitment to live by every word of God. As Jesus said: “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word” (Luke 4:4). Peace~Joanna. Hi Joanna, Yes; how true! Welcome to h-net; your presence is welcomed! Some people 'think' that they can bully others to submit to unreasonable demands. Carnal attitude is enmity! Luke 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Mathew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of “The Mouth of God” (YHVH). Your brother in Christ, Jesus! Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

HI there……………….. Thanks !

Yes………Bullying……………Does it happen here are you saying ?

~JO~

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Hello.

We MUST obey God.

If Jesus says you MUST, then you MUST………………………….

1. Love God

2. Love one another

First is true repentance. When we repent of sin, we are deeply sorrowfull for having transgressed God’s law……………………. We no longer have a hostile attitude toward God and Have respect and obediance. We no longer have a carnal attitude that is enmity………………………….. After repentance, we are in harmony with God’s law of love………………………………… Repentance brings a deep change in our thinking, and a commitment to live by every word of God. As Jesus said: “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word” (Luke 4:4).

Peace~Joanna.

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Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 18 2010,09:41)

Quote (OneDay @ Nov. 17 2010,14:26) Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2010,19:46) Welcome Joanna. Jesus told us to worship the Father.  It is who we have religious faith in as our Lord that should get our worship.  The Father is Lord, Jesus is Lord, not two from different essences but the same essence.  Let your faith lead you in how you respond and understand the idea of worship. No one has to tell people to worship money…it is something within us that leads us towards who we are religiously devoted to, some are motivated by spiritual faith, some are motivated by flesh. There are vast examples of the Messiah receiving worship and commending those followers for their 'faith in the NT,' the emphasis is not on commending those for their obedience when they bowed down to Him, it was for their faith. There are also passages in the OT that illustrates worship or religious bowing down to the Messiah.  The Father and the Son are both of one and the same essence.  Jesus said that if you believe in the Father, believe also in Him. I hope you enjoy it here.  Tell us about how you found Heaven Net. Blessings to you, Kathi/Lightenup/LU HI! You said……………………………..The Father is Lord, Jesus is Lord………………………………..Are you a oneness believer ? Well Me –  I believe The Father is Almighty God (translated as LORD in the Holy Bible), while Jesus is the Son of Almighty God (translated as Lord in the Holy Bible) Jesus the only begotten Son of God conceived of teh Holy Spirit, Jesus who came from Heaven, Jesus who revealed the Father, Then returned to the Father. And is to return again………………….. Worship is for the Father Almighty God as Jesus said….. Thanks………………………………. ~JO~ Hi Jo, I am not a oneness believer.  I believe in the Father as the one true God and in His Son who is the one true begotten God as His Son from the Father and that they are together with the Holy Spirit, the God of Israel and all believers.  You might call it a Godhead. From what I can tell, this seems to be an early trinity but not the trinity of today.  I believe in the Apostle's Creed and the Nicene Creed but I am wrestling with the Athanasian Creed. I worship the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and I believe that is the intent of the worship of the Father.  I believe it brings Him glory What about you?  What do you think about the word that was God in John 1:1? Look at the page before this and see the many verses that I posted to “Irene” about Jesus receiving 'worship.' Blessings!

Hi there!

You say………………………I believe in the Father as the one true God and in His Son who is the one true begotten God as His Son from the Father and that they are together with the Holy Spirit, the God of Israel and all believers. You might call it a Godhead. From what I can tell, this seems to be an early trinity but not the trinity of today. …………………………..

OK. Cool. What was different earlier in the Trinity ? I would like to now.

I have read the page before here as you said……..thanks !

I wonder when people say these things to me…….

How come Jesus prayed to his Father in Heaven……………………How come Jesus also told people to pray “OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN”………………….How come Jesus said to Worship ONLY GOD……….I mean were they just words he said or did he mean them ?

If He never meant it why say it ? Was there another meaning?………………..

Maybe people think that because he was in human its easier to relate to him as God…………… than it is to God Almighty………………….. because God Almighty is feared ?

Bowing in fearfull respect and AWE at Gods greatness is what I prefer to do as Jesus said to do…………….I go to God in prayer…………I seek Gods answers. I love God…….. I cry to God. As Jesus did.

Do you think theres anything wrong with this ? Just curious.

Thanks !

~JOANNA~

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Thanks for welcome to the others here !

And God bless……………………….

~JO~

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Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2010,19:46)

Welcome Joanna. Jesus told us to worship the Father.  It is who we have religious faith in as our Lord that should get our worship.  The Father is Lord, Jesus is Lord, not two from different essences but the same essence.  Let your faith lead you in how you respond and understand the idea of worship. No one has to tell people to worship money…it is something within us that leads us towards who we are religiously devoted to, some are motivated by spiritual faith, some are motivated by flesh. There are vast examples of the Messiah receiving worship and commending those followers for their 'faith in the NT,' the emphasis is not on commending those for their obedience when they bowed down to Him, it was for their faith. There are also passages in the OT that illustrates worship or religious bowing down to the Messiah.  The Father and the Son are both of one and the same essence.  Jesus said that if you believe in the Father, believe also in Him. I hope you enjoy it here.  Tell us about how you found Heaven Net. Blessings to you, Kathi/Lightenup/LU

HI !

You said……………………………..The Father is Lord, Jesus is Lord………………………………..Are you a oneness believer ?

Well Me –  I believe The Father is Almighty God (translated as LORD in the Holy Bible), while Jesus is the Son of Almighty God (translated as Lord in the Holy Bible)

Jesus the only begotten Son of God conceived of teh Holy Spirit,
Jesus who came from Heaven,
Jesus who revealed the Father,
Then returned to the Father. And is to return again…………………..

Worship is for the Father Almighty God as Jesus said…..

Thanks……………………………….

~JO~

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Hello !

 GOD THE FATHER
       l           l
       l           l
JESUS THE MESSIAH
       l           l
       l           l
 TRUE BELIEVERS

All are “One” – However
Believers are not – God the Father,
Jesus the Messiah is not –  God the Father
Worship and serve – God the Father – Is what Jesus the Messiah has said.
Is the way I see it.
Is that right ?

~JOANNA~  

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I Forgot to say

Hello

~JO~

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Cain and Abel both worshipped God, but Cain's sacrifice was rejected because he was unrighteous.

Nadab and Abihu offered incense, but God destroyed them: “Then Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, each took his censer and put fire in it, put incense on it, and offered profane fire before the LORD, which He had not commanded them. So fire went out from the LORD and devoured them, and they died before the LORD” (Leviticus 10:1,2).

Satan tried to persuade Christ to bow before him. He did not say: “Don't worship God.” He said: “Worship me.” Jesus replied: “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve'” (Luke 4:5-8). Satan's trick did not work with Christ as it does with so many.

~JO~

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