Stu,Why don't you tell us what's really on your mind?

Quote (chosenone @ July 05 2008,13:06)OOPS,  thanks also theodorej,  I Enjoyed your viewpoint. Thanks for participating.God Bless.Hey, don't forget me!! I suppose my views are simple enough.If the thief was under the old covenant, please show me where the “requirements” for salvation changed? Someone please show:Requirements for salvation u…[Read more]

The thief on the cross knew what was required for salvation and he wasn't even a believer for very long…….Believe and you will be saved. Those who call on the name of the Lord will be saved.Everything is else is fine and dandy, it's works or actions, but Jesus did all on the cross. We cannot add to it or take away from it. We just need to…[Read more]

Cato,I had a women approach me while in China Town last year with friends. She came over to me and looked like a deer staring into headlights. She stood right in front of me with hand outstretched and asked, “Can feel your aura?”. I told her that if she couldn't already feel it standing that close to me that there was no hope for her. She told…[Read more]

The BU's would argue that when we are given the Spirit as a deposit guaranteeing that we are his. If it's guaranteed, doesn't that make it a for sure thing?guar·an·tee Audio Help /ˌgærənˈti/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -teed, -tee·ing. –noun 1. a promise or assur…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ July 01 2008,21:12)Quote (lineon @ July 01 2008,02:41)My guess is 23 points to you lineon, you are right!Ecc 11:9 Walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes. Num 15:39 Seek not after your own heart and your own eyes. With god anything is possible.StuartNo, with men at the pen anything is possible.

Thanks, I needed that this morning,Mandy

Wow, Nick, you had a lot to say back in 2004!! Not these one, two or three liner's but actually full bodied posts! It was a pleasure to read them. Thanks for bumping the thread.I also believe you can lose your salvation, however I've heard some really good arguments for the opposite (especially the BU folks).

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,11:12)Hi not3,Should we obey all? Yes.Is God trustworthy? Yes2tim2  11It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: 12If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. 14Of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,11:12)Hi not3,Should we obey all? Yes.Is God trustworthy? Yes2tim2  11It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: 12If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 13If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. 14Of…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,10:14)Hi not3, You should obey what is written and then trust God.Should we obey ALL that is written in hopes of hitting the right combination of requirements for salvation?Salvation is not of ourselves. I believe when the Lord said depart from me I never knew you….he wasn't referring to those who were not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,10:14)Hi not3, You should obey what is written and then trust God.Should we obey ALL that is written in hopes of hitting the right combination of requirements for salvation?Salvation is not of ourselves. I believe when the Lord said depart from me I never knew you….he wasn't referring to those who were not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,09:31)Hi not3,Men should not assume on their forgiveness by God.We should obey all things and leave the rest to Him.If we cannot be sure of our forgiveness then how are we to be sure of our salvation?The bible teaches us to have confidence that we are his!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,09:31)Hi not3,Men should not assume on their forgiveness by God.We should obey all things and leave the rest to Him.If we cannot be sure of our forgiveness then how are we to be sure of our salvation?The bible teaches us to have confidence that we are his!

It is interesting to ponder the idea that God could be walking in the garden with Adam – on earth – and still “be” in heaven.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,08:40)Hi not3,We are water baptised for the forgiveness of sins Men claim to know they are baptised in the Spirit.They assume that means they are forgiven.Not all who cry LORD LORD WE HAVE DONE MIRACLES IN YOUR NAME are found in the kingdom.Gotcha.So do you think the only ones the Lord “knows” are those that are…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,08:40)Hi not3,We are water baptised for the forgiveness of sins Men claim to know they are baptised in the Spirit.They assume that means they are forgiven.Not all who cry LORD LORD WE HAVE DONE MIRACLES IN YOUR NAME are found in the kingdom.Gotcha.So do you think the only ones the Lord “knows” are those that are…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,07:24)GHi not3, The symbol of the washing of the feet seems to be of forgiveness.Water baptism is also a plea for that divine forgiveness. We should not assume the forgiveness of God.You had me until the last sentence…..what are you implying?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2008,07:24)GHi not3, The symbol of the washing of the feet seems to be of forgiveness.Water baptism is also a plea for that divine forgiveness. We should not assume the forgiveness of God.You had me until the last sentence…..what are you implying?

Quote (supergeek14 @ July 02 2008,07:20)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 02 2008,05:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 02 2008,04:33)Adam……then i would like to change my vote to NO. How can that be done?Supergeek,It is clear that many mature Christians here do not believe that water baptism is necessary for salvation.Has no one given you anything that you…[Read more]