A closer look seems to reveal that the Genesis passage is speaking of the EARTH only. So perhaps the angels were already there?

According to the Genesis passage, the angels and so on were not created yet.  IN THE BEGINNING there was “darkness”…….

In the beginnng was the light? Not according to scripture, so it seems:Genesis 1:2 (New International Version)New International Version (NIV)Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.In the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,01:02)But the division of light and darkness is a division that just happens given that both cannot exist in the same area or space. Any other division is pointless and is in the opposite spirit of being a peace maker.Amen to that, bro!Mandy

Hi Gene,I confess, it's a bit disheartening to ponder that God already knows who will serve him and who will deny him (because he planned who will serve him and who will deny him). What if I only think I am one of the one's who will serve him, but in the end I deny him (according to his plan)? It appears I have no choice. That's confusing and…[Read more]

t8,Thanks for sharing the video. My daughter and I enjoyed it very much.Love,Mandy

One time a hummingbird came into my kitchen and I was able to trap her under a huge glass dome (to put her outside again). But before I let her loose I took 10 seconds to study her….she was still. I cannot believe how tiny they are! I just love hummingbirds. We have so many around here that you have to be careful when you are wearing red!…[Read more]

Thanks for the update, Irene. I'm sorry to hear about your feet – that must be so maddening sometimes. I know that when I sprained my ankle last year I was very impatient with the slow healing. I had to hop everywhere (and no running for me which is like a slow death). Anyway, take care of you and Georg.Love to you both,Mandy

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2008,00:52)This is not a happy hour that we come to enjoy.I enjoy every moment that I am here. If you are find that you are not enjoying it, you may want to revisit why you come here?Unity in the Spirit can be for all, even if we do not agree on the interpretation of scripture. What binds us together is love. We bear…[Read more]

Quote (Irene @ Aug. 15 2008,08:17)We all need to respect our Brothers and Sisters in Peace and Love. Getting upset with others because of Sriptures is not wise, is it? You do agree? It is hard to disagree with someone in a loving way, I do realize that.Sis Irene,Thank you for this post! It is not our jobs to call the children of God. It's not…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 16 2008,23:03)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 15 2008,22:34)Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 16 2008,08:33)“A religion needs to have a wisdom that is dynamic and not fixed by a dogma that may have fitted one age but not another.”  – Shahin BakhradniaLoving your brother doesn't fit into this age and time?  Forgiving one another and bearing with o…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 16 2008,21:31)Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 16 2008,16:16)What do suppose would happen to the Christian dogma if John 1:1 was never written?  Sorry, I'm tired.  What I mean is, if John 1:1 was never written would we have come up with some of the Christian dogma that is so popular?Hi not3, Yes many dogmatic people wish John had n…[Read more]

What do suppose would happen to the Christian dogma if John 1:1 was never written? Sorry, I'm tired. What I mean is, if John 1:1 was never written would we have come up with some of the Christian dogma that is so popular?

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 16 2008,08:33)“A religion needs to have a wisdom that is dynamic and not fixed by a dogma that may have fitted one age but not another.” – Shahin BakhradniaLoving your brother doesn't fit into this age and time? Forgiving one another and bearing with one another doesn't fit into our generation? HmmmThe wisdom Jesus brought…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ Aug. 15 2008,21:25)this is one of my hide outs!!!Next time you want to hide-out, call ME sista! My hide-out is the bathroom! It's the only room in the house that I can lock the door and have some privacy from the kids.

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 15 2008,23:49)Are you hinting that Jesus was bipolar? Or that — gasp — all of the words attributed to him didn't actually come out of his mouth.Kevin,You of all people realize that language was very different back in the day of Jesus. It is quite possible that in the translations the true meaning of what “hating mother and…[Read more]

Hey Jodi,Don't mean to interupt your debate – just wanted to say hello and glad to see you here.Carry on! Mandy

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 15 2008,16:01)Quite strange how a belief in one thing in principle denies belief in another thing.Hmmmm.This is something worth pondering!Thanks,Mandy

Parts of NZ look a lot like Seattle, WA. Your tower also looks like our Space Needle. Neat! Although we do not have deserts and tropical elements.Thanks for sharing about you and your family, t8. Let's see, you have a two year old…..time to add a sibling, huh? Love,Mandy

According to Wikipedia – Brother Gene would be considered “Hard Determinism”.I think it's an interesting thing to ponder, however if you put your trust fully in the bible I would have to say that the PAST doesn't necessarily influence our future.We become new creations in Christ. The old has past and the new has come…….Just some…[Read more]