Thanks, Tim.You have a kindred spirit here, with me. I agree with you and have adopted a very similiar belief system.We all must work out our own salvation with fear and trembling.Thanks for being brave and answering my question.Love,Mandy

Quote (theodorej @ Sep. 10 2008,23:13)Quote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 09 2008,23:36)Seriously, it is just another story to explain how two more tribes of people came into being. the story is flawed though. Lot's daughters claimed that theybelieved there was no other man alive so thay had to preserve their father's seedin order to perpetuate the human…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Sep. 10 2008,23:48)Quote (theodorej @ Sep. 10 2008,22:57)I would think that people who live in fear constantly are devoted to their condition of paranoia or cowardess…or bothHi Theodore,Isn't Christianity basically a fear based religion.God says you must believe that I love you or I will send you to hell for eternity.So these…[Read more]

ZB,I'm speechless…….T H A N K Y O U!Mandy

Stu, no one is perfect and by the way the title of this thread is: CHRISTIANS who display their fruit. As a Christian, 94 is doing a superb job. You have to keep it in context, bro. At any rate, let this not be a place where we trash people but where we encourage people. I suspect the thread will die in a few posts time anyway. Ha! Kevin, I…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 10 2008,01:27)Are you guys rebelling again?I know this was meant as a sort of joke but as for me, I feel a bit of it coming on again.And the reason is that I've been studying the OT!!t8, there ARE some things you just can't explain away….believe me, I'm trying.Mandy

YA!What Tim said.

Everyone says they have the “Holy Spirit” and that this Spirit leads them…….Everyone is going in different directions……I'm sorry but simple observation tells me that there is no Spirit leading here, it is only personal opinion driven by a good ability to debate what you've become convinced of.Can anyone show me otherwise?…[Read more]

I'd like to bring up Lot and his daughter's.Bro 94 agrees that the passage where Lot get's wasted and then has incestuous sex with his daughter's is definitely hard to understand. I believe it qualifies for “The too hard basket” thread.  Does anyone have any ideas of how we can explain this away?   Clearly God had given rules about this type of r…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Sep. 09 2008,11:36)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 09 2008,04:32)Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 08 2008,23:55)Yes, and Lot was righteous. We can see his righteousness as he offers his daughters to be raped.Sorry, jumping on the band wagon here……….and then Lot committed incestuous sex with those same daughter's so that they could become…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 09 2008,14:33)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 08 2008,20:54)Hi KJ:If you do not have the Holy Spirit dwelling within, then who is it that is leading you to all truths?Your claim of the “holy spirit within” means very little. This supposed “holy spirit” leads WJ to believe Yahweh, Jesus and the HS are a trinity, while the same supposed…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 09 2008,13:00)Hi Mandy,I'd put you on my “list” if it were up to me but I am not the one in charge of that.  I'd put everyone here on my list in fact.Hang in there,KathiBut it IS up to you!In fact, you have already determined who is on that list and who is not. You have made it very clear that you and I do not belong to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 09 2008,04:25)Not3in1……..”O” Mandy, you would be on my list also.  Thanks for the generosity, bro. Not all here would include me, I know!

Quote (kejonn @ Sep. 08 2008,23:55)Yes, and Lot was righteous. We can see his righteousness as he offers his daughters to be raped.Sorry, jumping on the band wagon here……….and then Lot committed incestuous sex with those same daughter's so that they could become preganant! The bible says that Lot was drunk and so therefore he didn't know…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 08 2008,16:58)Hi not3, lighten up It's been a difficult weekend. I'll take your advice and look towards a new week….Thanks,Mandy

Nick, I think you have just given me the answer that I have been looking for.The bible says that fear is the beginning of wisdom, but that perfect love casts out fear. Which is it? Should we fear and become wise, or should we love and have our fears relieved? The bible is full of these.Lot's wife was better off becoming a pillar of salt. Lot…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 08 2008,13:44)Hi not3,Don't judge by what you see now. Keep seeking more of the Spirit.I've been here going on a year and a half. I have participated in over 5,000 posts…… I'm not sure that the “Spirit” is in any of it? There is way more division than unity. We cannot even agree on the smallest thing.We can take…[Read more]

For Gene

Kevin,I joined beliefnet. My name there is BeeKeeper (“Mandy” was taken). It's a cool site, thanks.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 08 2008,06:14)But those who are lead by the Spirit of GOD, the spirit of truth can put it together because GOD gives them the understanding to overcome these false teaching.If you had to determine who was “lead by the Spirit of God” here on this board, who would you choose? Maybe your list would go like this:1. You2.…[Read more]