The bible is written in codes.The “Spirit” is supposed to help us unlock these codes.Problem is, the “Spirit” gives different answers to different people!

Father doesn't really mean father.Son doesn't really mean son.Conception doesn't really mean conception.God is an “it” even though “he” protrays “himself” as “father” (which, we, stupid humans, understand as being a male).Got it.

Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 23 2008,17:15)Hi Mandy,Please see this verse in Jn 1:12 But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name.13 Who are born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.It is infact talking about God's children in general not alone…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Dec. 23 2008,13:44)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 23 2008,12:08)Hi 94, The universalists have had to design a new god.Hi Nick:The scripture states that except a man is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.It's ridiculous to set this standard. What of those who have never held a bible in their lives? They…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 23 2008,07:04)Quote (Not3in1 @ Dec. 23 2008,06:43)Quote (Jodi @ Dec. 23 2008,06:00)God is actually neither male or female. The term Father, is YHWH's way of relating to us IN OUR TERMS, so we can understand what sort of relationship YHWH desires to have with us.I confess, this actually makes me have a lump in the…[Read more]

Tim,Excellent points!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 23 2008,06:54)Hi not3, Men are judged according to the advantages given them.Luke 12:48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.So the…[Read more]

Perhaps testing them is an ambiguous word. Couldn't one test their insight by gathering a few witnesses? Again, what of those without the written word to guide them? Can they not have insight given by God?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 23 2008,06:37)Quote (Not3in1 @ Dec. 23 2008,05:58)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 23 2008,03:52)Hi Tim4, No just facing folks with the fact that despite it's few and largely identified problems scripture remains the only basis for discussion when it comes to finding truth and we must hold to it as our foundation. Rejecting it…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi @ Dec. 23 2008,06:00)God is actually neither male or female. The term Father, is YHWH's way of relating to us IN OUR TERMS, so we can understand what sort of relationship YHWH desires to have with us.I confess, this actually makes me have a lump in the back of my throat…..God set up rules for our living that do not apply to him? Yet…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi @ Dec. 23 2008,06:08)Hi Mandy, YHWH created man in his own image, MALE AND FEMALE. Genesis 1:27YHWH is not a male, you are thinking of God being the Father of Jesus in human terms, and not according to how our Creator has chosen to relate to us.Good point, sis.A perspective I haven't yet thought of.It's a disappointing thought, I…[Read more]

Good morning, Jodi.Quote In order for us to be saved, Jesus had to be a man born under the law, not a god or a half god, but a man under the law.God could have found any man “under law” to do the job. Even Mary and Jo's bio son would have done nicely.Quote This tells us specifically that Jesus had to be a MAN as Adam was a man. God saw fit…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 23 2008,03:52)Hi Tim4, No just facing folks with the fact that despite it's few and largely identified problems scripture remains the only basis for discussion when it comes to finding truth and we must hold to it as our foundation. Rejecting it because of doubts is foolishness.Nick,Scripture is the only basis for…[Read more]

Quote (Tiffany @ Dec. 22 2008,20:10)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 22 2008,19:37)Hi not3, If someone does not believe the bible is true then why would they ever quote it?Good question. I like to ask you Mandy, where did you get your understand from. And don' say somethin llike out of my closet. The Mystery of God has been given to His saints.  Who are…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi @ Dec. 22 2008,12:30)Jesus was raised a new man, an immortal man, which destroyed the enmity that was in his flesh, he no longer contains those instincts that draw his flesh to serve his flesh because he is no longer subjected to survival. Jesus has been freed, only life lives in his body, thus his intellect dwells in that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 22 2008,19:37)Hi not3, If someone does not believe the bible is true then why would they ever quote it?Nick,I'm not sure what your ultimate goal is here?Throughout my college experience I've quoted from a lot of history books where I wasn't 100% sure they were correct? After all, I'm relying on those who wrote the books.…[Read more]

Jodi,OK, it's after midnight, but I'll take a stab at some of these things that you presented.Quote This is saying that Jesus had to be just like us in order to pay for our sins. This is why to say that Jesus was half God, destroys our salvation, because otherwise he could not pay for our sins.I've also heard it said from our Trinitarian brother's…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Dec. 22 2008,09:34)Quote (Jodi @ Dec. 22 2008,06:25)Look close at this scripture, Jesus was not born as a new creation, he was resurrected as one, which is what makes him called in 1 Cor 15 the 'heavenly man'.Hi Sis,I'm going to tackle litte pieces of your post here and there…I keep getting distracted by kids running in and out…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 22 2008,11:51)Hi not3, Can you trust scripture?You mean like the KJV and verses like 1 John 5:7?Should I? But I guess we should continue this in the Bible thread, huh?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 22 2008,18:55)Hi not3, Should He have done better?Do you really think ANYTHING happens outside of His plan?{{shrugging shoulders}}Your guess is as good as mine, Nick.I'm only sharing why I doubt.