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    Not3in1 replied to the topic The Truth in the forum Truth or Tradition 19 years, 1 month ago

    Does anyone have the answer? YES! I do! So does Nick, t8, Kenrch, WJ, Isaiah, David, Adam, GW, Olive, Charity, Tim2, Tim4, and all the other brethern as well.Who is right? I share your burden of thought. I have brought this question up a few times myself. There are no easy answers, only more questions. I have come to believe that scripture…[Read more]

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    Very God of Very God; Eternal Son; 100% God and 100% Man; Dual nature; Double nature; God-man; Fully God and fully man.All unscriptual language. Doesn't this bother those who believe the teaching? Why doesn't it bother you?Is God described anywhere using unbiblical terms? Then why is OK to describe his Son using unbiblical terms? These are…[Read more]

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    It must be all the prophets and disciples and those who survive the tribulation that will enjoy the 1000 years. I know that I couldn't be great enough to make into that group!

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    How do we receive our spirit, that is; what makes us “alive”? Flesh is not alive unless the spirit is within us. Is that not given during conception? If not during conception, then when?

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    This is hard to grasp. I haven't studied this subject at all. Do you mean to say that when we are in Paradise we will rule over people? Who are these people? Why are they still around – hasn't the judgement Day already come and gone? Or is this the time inbetween? And if inbetween, who decides who will have authority over others?Wow. Too…[Read more]

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    Let me see if I'm following you correctly: I also believe that when we die we shed our “tent” and our spirit is with the Lord.However, when we are conceived, we are conceived with all our “parts” and that includes a spirit (who we are). The question is do we receive our “spirit” as a result of conception, or do you believe that we only receive…[Read more]

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    1. He was with God in the beginning: Jesus did not pre-exist his earthly existence, rather he is a true son and was with his Father in the form of a future son – he was “hidden” in God, in his quiver as a seed.2. He came from heaven: Jesus “came from heaven” because God is in heaven. Jesus' source is God. God sent him (he sent his seed and…[Read more]

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    I assure you that Paul's “soul” was woven together in the womb with the rest of him! And all that weaving comes about by the miracle of conception (the sharing and dividing of chromosomes). Sorry, Nick, there is no getting around this, unless of course you are God!According to the spirit, Jesus was determined to be the Son of God by his…[Read more]

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    He was with God in the beginning.He came from heaven.He was sent.He was in the form of God.He had seen God.He obeyed.He emptied himself.************************I also believe these things about Jesus. And yet you and I have differing opinions about *what* the Son of God is. It's all in our personal evaluation of the truth that scripture brings.…[Read more]

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    Well, I guess you're not up for my challenge. That is OK. My point is just that everyone believes they are “relying on scripture” and there are a lot of different ideas out there (yours, mine, and others). We all believe that the scriptures point to what we believe – otherwise we wouldn't be convinced that we have the truth. :)

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    The 1000 yr reign will be a busy time putting to rights all that has been destroyed or damaged. ****************Very cool. :)

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    Negotiations happened between God and this being and agreement reached for him to decide to come to earth.A deal was struck and promises made and trusting obedient faith was involved for the Son to look beyind the suffering and rejection he was also promised.**************************Nick, you form your theory on John 1:1 based on your above…[Read more]

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    As Christ completed YAH's work, so we may rest in eternity. We are preparing ourselves for the ultimate rest, w/ HIM***************Good thoughts, Olive.I hope we are not resting too long – I've never been one for naps! I tend to think we will be busy about Paradise (doing what, I'm not sure).Mainstream Christianity……………..there is no…[Read more]

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    Not3in1 replied to the topic in the forum Not3in1 19 years, 1 month ago

    Olive, The hardest thing to do is to keep your tongue in check. The Bible has much to say on this as I am sure you are aware.This is the rule of thumb that I use when deciding whether or not to talk to someone about something controversial or confronting: if it feels good to say it – DON'T. :) This little bit has decreased the amount of crow I…[Read more]

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    Genes play no provable part in man except in the flesh.We are not just flesh.***************************Hi Nick,What do you mean?

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    Without genes you would have not heredity. Without genes you cannot exsist in any form (unless of course you are God).

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    There are too many sources that seem to say that the logos can refer to an “idea” for it to be completely tossed aside. What if John 1:1 were to be read that way? What other passages of scripture would have to be seen in this light? What would change? What does everyone thing. For a moment, humor me and others who believe that the logos can…[Read more]

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    Some thoughts I had this afternoon on the conception or incarnation of Jesus:The promise was given to Abram, “….to your offspring…” and “….to your seed…..” What was the promise if God intended to incarnate himself into a man?God is not from anyone's seed.Jesus is a legitimate son because he was conceived. While God's Son is genuine, his…[Read more]

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    Yes, but what did Peter mean by “Son of God”? ****************It was also Jewish custom to address one another by their Father's names (by the way, this is how surnames came into being: A guy named Ander for instance – had a son – instead of saying, “Son of Ander” it became “Anderson” – facinating study).Anyway, Jesus asked Peter, “Who do you say…[Read more]

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    Jesus is the male offspring of God (aka – the Son of God).Jesus is the second person of the Triune God, who is an incarnation of God himself (aka – the Son of God).Which sounds scriptural?If is my feeling that to make Jesus something other-than the literal Son of God is to slap the face of the Father who beget him.

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