Ah…..good stuff here, KJ.The SEED was Yeshua! Good stuff.

Excellent post – I will ponder this over lunch.What comes to mind, however, is that the Father has “qualified” us to be adopted. You adopt after your own “kind.” Jesus had to be a biological son of God for US to be considered for adoption (considering that God is not a man, but Jesus is).Col.1:12″…giving thanks to the Father who has qualified…[Read more]

You seem to believe that if Jesus had any advantage over us we cannot follow him? I've heard you say this on several threads that Jesus is a mere, puny, man!I say that he DID have advantages, and we were speaking of some, namely that he was able to not sin because he was parented directly by God – that is an advantage! My Daddy was a banker, not…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ July 16 2007,20:05)Not well versed in Greek, but I find it interesting that “only begotten” is used for monogenes in the case of both Yeshua and Isaac. In other instances, the word “only” (Lk 7:12, 8:42) and “only child” (Lk 9:38).Now, we know Isaac was NOT Abraham's only child, but he was the only child of both Abraham and Sarah.…[Read more]

Philippians 1:18″But what does it matter?  The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached.  And because of this I rejoice.”Hi Bib,Welcome to HeavenNet!  One thing that I have learned while here, is that many have truth in their beliefs.  These beliefs may not align themselves with your religion of…[Read more]

Whew, I'm dizzy. Around and around we go, don't we? I enjoy it though, and I thank you for taking time out of your life to carry this conversation on with me.Same body as JTB, and yet you want to believe he wasn't brought into the world the same way as JTB. Well, I suppose we hang on to what we are convinced of. Your theology requires a bit…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2007,19:00)Hi Not3, His Father's care. God was with him. It seems Joseph was not around and God did the male parenting.Psalm 68:5A father of the fatherless, and a judge of the widows, is God in his holy habitation.Jeremiah 7:6If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2007,12:49)Hi KJ, The monogenes Son was not eternal. He was a son as were the other sons present at the laying of the foundation of the earth He was the most important under God being an instrument for all creation. He had more to lose than any being under God. Yet he consented to come as a puny earthly, ignorant and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2007,18:41)Hi not3,God prepared a body for Christ. What God calls conception is conception and the lack is in us.OK.How did God “prepare” this body? What are your thoughts on that.A body prepared for me…….. What does this mean?We know what kind of body Jesus had; he ate, slept, bled and died. Jesus was woven in…[Read more]

If there is no difference found in Christ, that is; he is a mere man, then he too would be counted among those who sinned.What do you suppose kept him from sinning? Are you able to keep from sin?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2007,18:17)Hi not3, No difference. One sent to be first in everything.Showing the way through life and death and freeing men of that fear of death.Romans 3:22,23″This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE, for all have sinned….”No difference, you…[Read more]

Sorry but you cannot have the “bringing forth” without the “conception/birth” because they are one in the same thing, imo.I guess I could as you then, where in scripture have children been brought into the world without first being conceived? Adam? Maybe. But Adam is not a biological son of God, that has already been discussed.

Too bad the “quotes” don't say who they are quoting? One of my quotes was from t8 and the other from Nick. Oh, well, hopefully I can remember how to do this in the future. Cool.

Quote I have thought about creating a system for payment of the rental of the website to remain online if I found myself not in this world anymore. I would feel better if there was a way to keep the website online if or when that scenario takes place.It wouldn't just be the web host monthly/yearly fee, but someone technical would need to be take…[Read more]

Quote Good grief. Good grief, again….

So copy the part of the post you want to quote (select, edit, copy in the browsers menu) then go to the posting window and click the “quote” button. Then paste the post you copied and then click the quote button again to close the quote.Good grief.

To do that, you use the quote buttons above the posting window.So copy the part of the post you want to quote (select, edit, copy in the browsers menu) then go to the posting window and click the “quote” button. Then paste the post you copied and then click the quote button again to close the quote.Ah-ha! Now?

Quote (t8 @ July 06 2007,17:12)Hi Not3in1.To do that, you use the quote buttons above the posting window.So copy the part of the post you want to quote (select, edit, copy in the browsers menu) then go to the posting window and click the “quote” button. Then paste the post you copied and then click the quote button again to close the quote.Then…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 06 2007,17:12)Hi Not3in1.To do that, you use the quote buttons above the posting window.So copy the part of the post you want to quote (select, edit, copy in the browsers menu) then go to the posting window and click the “quote” button. Then paste the post you copied and then click the quote button again to close the quote.Then…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 16 2007,17:20)Hi not3, So no fathers bringing men into the world.Follow our conversation (or at least my posts, ha)….was John not conceived? Of course he was conceived. Did Elizabeth do that on her own?