Quote (Cult Buster @ July 30 2007,02:44)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 29 2007,17:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2007,11:44)You defy the translators and would have us interpret scriptures like Heb 1:8 as…But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, (O divine, or O god) is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.Every m…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 29 2007,19:03)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 29 2007,13:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2007,11:44)You defy the translators and would have us interpret scriptures like Heb 1:8 as…But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, (O divine, or O god) is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy k…[Read more]

Quote (david @ July 29 2007,13:50)Quote I have a question for you – is this passage in 1 Tim. the only passage used to show that Christ is invisible and came to rule already?  Or are there other verses to support that teaching?  Thanks. Yes.I am more busy now than I have ever been.  I am taking a break.  I will come back to this on my next bre…[Read more]

Never said they were.

Hmmmm – I love it when you do that.Many here interpret the “Word” to be different things. You are currently in a debate with Gene over what this means. Jodi and others have contributed what they believe the “Word” means………………….all different ideas! Hmmmmm, indeed!

They were not conceived.

As you interpret the Word, yes…..

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2007,11:44)You defy the translators and would have us interpret scriptures like Heb 1:8 as…But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, (O divine, or O god) is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.Every major translation has this verse as…But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O G…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 28 2007,14:40)Hi, So this concept has been designed by those who devised the trinity theory to try and deal with one of it's worst faults. . The fault is the problem of the son of God. So instead of saying God has a son they say God has always been having a son but that son never has become and never will become a true son…[Read more]

Jesus is the FIRSTBORN of the new creation. As his brothers, we will follow him.Jesus was obviously not the FIRSTBORN of this creation……that honor would go to Cain and Abel.

Oh, I see. I wondered why you quoted it again?As I do believe that Jesus was truly conceived and then became a baby.However, that is how everyone comes into being!

David,I have a question for you – is this passage in 1 Tim. the only passage used to show that Christ is invisible and came to rule already? Or are there other verses to support that teaching? Thanks.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 29 2007,12:20)Hi Not3, Were all things created through someone who was with the Father but only potentially existed?Well……I see your point. Potentially, yes, but of course we know that all the LORD's plans will succeed.

Just out of curiousity, why did you quote the Numbers passage again in your last post? The passage is Moses speaking of the children of Israel. Does it have some other meaning to you regarding the “conception” of Jesus or different type of conception?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 29 2007,12:04)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 29 2007,11:42)Quote (Not3in1 @ July 28 2007,10:16)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2007,08:46)Hi not3, But would you suggest things happened THROUGH a being who did not even  exist?…….exist yet!  Yes!I already answered your question.  Your second question is basically asking the same th…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 28 2007,10:16)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2007,08:46)Hi not3, But would you suggest things happened THROUGH a being who did not even  exist?…….exist yet!  Yes!I already answered your question. Your second question is basically asking the same thing. God created everything *through* Christ. Christ did not have to be p…[Read more]

Gab spoke to Mary!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2007,11:39)Hi not3, So all things that are now were created through one who did not exist then?Where did he (Jesus) exist then? Show me!

In my opinion, Jesus is the combination of God and Mary (he is the Son of Man and the Son of God). Therefore, “JESUS” did not exist in the OT because he wasn't even born yet!There are prophecies concerning the Messiah to come, but we will not find any words of Jesus, or acts of Jesus in the OT. Those who are in the know – if they are there,…[Read more]

Welcome Elaine!I do believe we have a handful of women now on this site…..there for a while, I was outnumbered. English is my first language and I still have bad grammar – no excuse for me.