Some of my rebuttals to that website, David.1:5 It names “Mt Sinai”. Let's remember that Enoch lived before the flood, and was “translated” (Heb11:5) about 700 years before the flood. Most of earth's current geological features came about because of the flood. Thus, did Sinai even exist before the flood? This is prophetic. And he is…[Read more]

God > Jesus > A hierarchey of Angels with stations and positions in an almost militaristic fashion. Michael is like one of the Generals. Jesus is the King.

David,I understand that bothers me as well. I dont use enoch for doctrine. It is only a confirmation of beliefs I already gleaned from the bible.Yes, several apocryphal books are tacked onto the end of the book. (1) The Book of the Watchers (chaps. 1-36); (2) The Book of the Similitudes (chaps. 37-7l)-, (3) The Book of Astronomical…[Read more]

I really wish you would look into enoch David. Just because i can tell you are an honest and intelligent person. I think if you truly looked into it, you would know that there is truth there.

Oh I see what ya mean.Well, I think you fall into two camps:1) You believe that when God said he would preserve his word. You interperit that to mean that not one little iddy biddy letter will change throughout all time. This is usually the King James crowd.or 2) You believe that God did preserve his word, just not in the manner that the Textus…[Read more]

I was always agreeing with ya on that point David. It's only the Michael connection that I differ.

Your right Nick. was just an allegory.I do think the word is offensive and defensive though. The word drove out demons.

angel = messengerwith that deffinition it's obvious.but referring to seraphim, cherubim, malakim, wheels, thrones, dominions, principalities and powers that is a different story.

Unless some new texts are found i think we are pretty close to having the best manuscripts now.It is the translating of these texts that bother me. They should translate all names and titles literally. Starting with the name of God.other examples: sheol, hades, gehenna, tarturus

I agree with that line of reasoning David. Jesus was a messenger of God who brought the “good news”.I believe that Jesus was the angel of lord that said in the burning bush “I AM”.He was the word of God.He was that messenger that revealed the invisible God to the patriarchs. Just as he revealed his father when he incarnated as the man…[Read more]

Its defensive and offensive. Two-edged

I believe we use the sword.The sword is the word.Just as Jesus resisted Satan with the word. We can used the word to fight against principalities.11(U)Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the (V)schemes of the devil. 12For our (W)struggle is not against (X)flesh and blood, but (Y)against the rulers, against…[Read more]

It could mean he is coming to earth as a warrior this time instead of a babe and a suffering servant. The analogy used is “shout of the archangel”.Like “roar of a lion”, “warcry of the eagle”, “with a thunderous voice” Allegory is just as likely as a canidate.

As said in Part 1, the Church itself is responsible for perpetrating the most enduring and damaging cover-up in regard to abductions.Beyond this, in accordance with prophecies made by Peter, Paul and Jesus Christ himself, they invented a completely false doctrine about the “proper interpretation” of Genesis 6. This heresy has robbed both the…[Read more]

an article from here ; http://www.sherryshriner.com/church-coverup.htmSince it's English translation in the 1800's from texts found in Ethiopia in 1768, The Book of Enoch (known today as 1st Enoch) has made quite a stir in academic circles. 1 Enoch has been authenticated as existing and in wide use before the church age (most scholars now date it…[Read more]

I agree, I believe the scriptures literaly when they talk of the spiritual warefare of the angels.

From reading the JW booklet I got I know that they believe that angels did indeed leave their first estate and come into the daughters of men. Has anything contradicted your beliefs in the book of enoch David?Other than Jesus is not michael, because it lists multiple archangels.

David, Here is some on the son of man in enoch.481And in that place I saw the fountain of righteousnessWhich was inexhaustible:And around it were many fountains of wisdom:And all the thirsty drank of them,And were filled with wisdom,And their dwellings were with the righteous and holy and elect.2And at that hour that Son of Man was namedIn the…[Read more]

Have you read the book of Enoch, David?If you have not looked at it how do you know if it is just legend and not inspired writ?If it is simply because “You only consider the western protestant canon scriptures” then please show me chapter and verse on this?Where is is written that scripture will only ever be contained within one book and bound…[Read more]

Well what is the truth then Michael?Share with us I would like to hear.