@Lightenup
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Berean,
I looked at the whole, you asked for specifics.
You started your post which was written as a statement of fact and I think it was not a fact that can be supported by scripture. That is why I started with the first line.Are there really those two main reasons that the Son was begotten? Only two, and no others AND where are they listed…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Actually, the answers to A & B when Proverbs 30 was written are YHVH to both. I don’t believe the Old Testament mentions the name Yashua for the Son.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Carmel:
I know that you don’t believe that Jesus did not exist before He was begotten from the dead. Obviously, begotten in Acts 13:33 did not mean that Jesus was non-existent before begotten on the day of the resurrection, for instance. Your Merriam-Webster definition is not the Biblical definition. The MW definition is from a word that didn’t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Berean,
For starters:
Where does this come from in the scriptures:
The two main reasons why God begot an Only Begotten Son in the days of eternity are:
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Berean,
It is interesting to speculate. I don’t think that scripture directly says what you speculate though. I’m not saying that “brainstorming” is wrong but posting it as truth is misleading. Agree?
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Danny,
I was wondering the same thing. I assume, since PC hasn’t been posting for a while, he hasn’t been spending time on HN to delete the spammers. It is eye opening how many there are that he must have to deal with regularly.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Carmel,
Jesus did pre-exist his flesh as a spirit without flesh, and was and is and always will be part of the oneness of YHVH whether begotten or pre-begotten. The begetting does not change the oneness of YHVH which the Father and Son both belong.
God bless,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Gene,
Is the Father independently the one true God AND eternal life?
OR
Is the Father, being the one true God and eternal life dependent on the Son’s obedience unto becoming man and obeying the Father even unto death, and being raised again to eternal life?
Did what Jesus did, make the Father God AND eternal life? In other words, can you h…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
@ Danny Dabbs @ berean
Hi guys, I’m glad that you can see that the only begotten Son of God has the name YHVH, which is also the name of his Father.
I believe that Jesus is identified as YHVH and the Father is identified as YHVH in the scriptures.
They share an eternal nature yet are distinct from each other as individual persons.
Both,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
@Proclaimer @DannyDabbs
Perhaps PC is enjoying a much needed holiday since he has still not put up a rebuttal post to my January 9th proof of the Son of God being identified as YHVH by his Father. I hope the Holy Spirit is opening his mind to that truth.
Today I saw this video for the first time which addresses the same scriptures which I used…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
@Danny Dabbs,
Looks like Proclaimer has gotten distracted from the January 9th question.
Have you any thoughts about Jesus being identified as YHVH and God?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Carmel,
You said: ALL THE ABOVE IS A CLEAR REFERENCE TO JESUS’ PREXISTENCE AS A SPIRIT!
It is a reference to the only begotten Son of God who was in the same form as his Father before creation.
Lightenup replied to the topic Amazing landscapes in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 11 months ago
PC, what is the name of that national park in Australia?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Hi Carmel,
Thank you for rewriting your post. That was much easier to follow.
I see those references in Hebrews, Psalms 2, Acts 13, to the “begetting” as taking place from the dead. Hence, He is called “Firstborn from the dead.” Jesus, however is certainly identified as God’s Son already many times before he was begotten from the dead.
Co…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Amazing landscapes in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 11 months ago
This is a compilation of some of the many waterfalls in my area of the States. Enjoy!
Lightenup replied to the topic Amazing landscapes in the forum Chatroom 3 years, 11 months ago
Both of those videos are showing places that are so diverse from each other. New Zealand certainly doesn’t lack in natural beauty. I love the waterfalls among the lush green trees and those layered stone hills are unlike anything I’ve ever seen! Do you know the type of rock that makes up those hill?
Thanks for sharing, PC.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
@Danny Dabbs
You said:
It seems that God the Father Himself believes that His Son is God and Yahweh.
(Hebrews 1:10-12; Psalm 102:24-27)You are absolutely right Danny! Christians everywhere see this also 😉
I’m glad you are here,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
PC
PC said:
To be fair. God is the head of all. Yes Christ is the head, but Hod is the head of him. God is the Most High.
The Most High Father is the only direct head of the Most High Son. The Most High Son is the only direct head of the church. The Most High Son and the Most High Father are ONE as a perfect unity, the Unity of YHVH.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
Carmel,
The God, who is the Son of God the Father, is the head of the church, not the Father. The Father did not shed his “own blood.” The Father did not become flesh.
Your last post to me is written in a way that I asked you not to write when addressing me because it is not easily readable, imo, and I am not interested in deciphering lengthy,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 11 months ago
@Proclaimer
This has been asked of you since January 9, 2021. Here is a reminder:
PC,
Who does the Father identify as
laying the foundations of the earth in this passage:
In Hebrews 1
8But about the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever,
and justice is the scepter of Your kingdom.
9You have loved rig…[Read more]
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