@Proclaimer:

You said:

But about the Son he says,

The Son says…? The Psalmist says…?

The Father says, about the Son.

Let it be.

@Proclaimer,

You said:

I read a post of yours somewhere that pointed out that “ye are gods” is not using the word ‘theos’ but a plural version of that. Thanks for pointing that out.

You’re welcome, is that your way of apologizing for telling me to “shut your mouth” when I attempted the first time to show you that?

@Proclaimer

You wrote:

1 Cor 8:6 yet to us is one God, the Father, of whom are the all things, and we to Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are the all things, and we through Him;

Stop pretending you believe this LU. Your teaching is clearly contrary to what this is saying.

Oh I believe it, but I also believe that YHVH is two persons,…[Read more]

Hey Guys,

Hebrews 1 tell us all that it was the Son that was in the beginning, the mystery is solved but you keep denying it Gene.

But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.

Later in Hebrews 1 the Father identifies the Son as YHVH.

10And:

“In the b…[Read more]

In response to the above post by Adam,

1 Peter 2

4Coming to Him (Jesus), a living stone, indeed rejected by men, but chosen and precious in the sight of God, 5you yourselves also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house into a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6Therefore it…[Read more]

JESUS PRE-EXISTED AS THE SON OF GOD THE FATHER!!

Heb 1:1 On many past occasions and in many different ways, God spoke to our fathers through the prophets. 2But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son,whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.

And what does the Father say that His SON did during…[Read more]

Hi Adam,

I hope you find your way out of your spirit of doubt and enjoy the whole Jewish Bible.

Best wishes, LU

Hi Adam,

You said:

But the Historians are critical about the person’s fate who was crucified as a Roman criminal.

Is there a topic for that?

You asked:

The question here is whether El Elyon(Most High God) had been merged with LORD(Yahweh) in the later texts of Hebrew Bible? If so when this change took place?

We still find these traces in Deut 3…

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Amen Berean,

Regarding this:

Hi Berean,

Can you see that the Father is identifying the Son as YHVH who laid the foundation of the earth and that the heavens are the works of His hands in Heb 1:10-12?

 

Hi LU

TOTALY LU

For me They have the same divine NAME: YHVH

EXAMPLE:
In the PSALMS 24 who identifies The Son as the King of glory We can see…

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Adam,

Deuteronomy 21:22-23

22If a man has committed a sin worthy of death, and he is executed, and you hang his body on a tree, 23you must not leave the body on the tree overnight, but you must be sure to bury him that day, because anyone who is hung on a tree is under God’s curse. You must not defile the land that the LORD your God is giving y…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

It uses the PLURAL form of “theos” which is not spelled t h e o s. The plural form used is  “t h e o i.” See here:

That shows you that “t h e o s” is not like the word “sheep” which is the same spelling whether it is plural or not. If “theos” were like the word sheep, why is it spelled differently as “t h e o i?”

Hi Adam,

You said:

I can’t get any thing from this group called Messianic Jews who are purely Trinitarian Christians in disguise of Jewishness.

I think it would be very wise for you to look to people who are Jewish that didn’t used to follow Jesus as the Messiah but changed to become followers of Jesus as the Messiah.

Also, I am not convinced t…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

I will ask you a third time:

Regarding this:

@Proclaimer,

I think we are having a communication issue. Your post about plurals and singulars compare the word like “sheep” which is spelled the same way whether it is singular or plural, with the word “theos” and then go on to say how theos is plural in John 10:34. It is true that th…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

I will ask you again (second time).

@Proclaimer

You said:

Read my post again. I’ll state it in another way. You have both bought into this doctrine as being what the New Testament teaches.
You do not know what the trinity doctrine teaches for you to say this. The Holy Spirit is a third person in that doctrine. When have I said t…[Read more]

Hi Adam,

Did you ask this question:

If Jesus Never Called Himself God, How Did He Become One?

If you did, why would all it take to become God, to just call yourself God? Isn’t a better question to ask “When does God the Father call Jesus God?”

Answer…Heb 1:10-12 I know that you see that the Father identified Jesus as YHVH there. You have made…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Can you see that the Father is identifying the Son as YHVH who laid the foundation of the earth and that the heavens are the works of His hands in Heb 1:10-12?

@Proclaimer

Regarding this:

@Proclaimer,

I think we are having a communication issue. Your post about plurals and singulars compare the word like “sheep” which is spelled the same way whether it is singular or plural, with the word “theos” and then go on to say how theos is plural in John 10:34. It is true that the root word of “theos”…[Read more]

@Proclaimer

You said:

Read my post again. I’ll state it in another way. You have both bought into this doctrine as being what the New Testament teaches.

You do not know what the trinity doctrine teaches for you to say this. The Holy Spirit is a third person in that doctrine. When have I said that?

Hi Adam,

You said:

I always like your positive attitude. Yes the NT certainly talks the divinity of Jesus.

Thank you. The identity of YHVH as applied to Jesus is certainly in the NT.

@Proclaimer,

You say:

Greek sentence construction affirms that if a noun doesn’t have a preceding article, (THE) it can be read as an adjective (a predicate adjective); and if such a noun does have a preceding article it should be considered a noun (a predicate nominative).

Please tell me what your source is for the above.