Adam,

You said:

Yes few Jews who are lenient towards Christian Messiah interpret Isaiah 53 as referring to Messiah…

There were Jews applying Isaiah 53 to the Messiah before Jesus was born of Mary. Can you see that in your article?

Proclaimer,

You said:

And your example of it being used of YHWH is not the best example because it tells you which Lord, therefore of course you can use the general word if you are defining which Lord.

What would be a better example to demonstrate that Lord (adon Strong’s 113) is not always a human ruler, Proclaimer, since you think there could…[Read more]

Gene,

You said:

“the human root and offspring of king David “

Please show me where that is in the Bible specifically with the word “human.”

Gene,

You wrote:

When the singular adon is used , it usually refers to a human lord , Adon is used 215 times referring to men.

Do you see that word “usually” Gene? That means that adon doesn’t always refer to a human lord. Therefore, you can not say that the adon in Psalm 110:1 is a human ruler just because it is adon. Adon can also mean a…[Read more]

Adam,

Your article does admit that there were some who thought Isaiah 53 was referring to the Messiah.

Did you come back to HN to cause more division? Did you come back to HN to lead people away from Christ?

Gene,

I agree that LORD in all caps is YHVH and never only a human ruler. I disagree that LORD written in all caps is how the translators indicate the Hebrew word adonai. I also disagree that adon is ONLY for human rulers and I will show you one of several proofs of that:

Isaiah 10:33

Young’s Literal Translation
Lo, the Lord, Jehovah of Hosts,…[Read more]

Berean, good post. That should help Adam (if he really wants help) to see that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah.

I don’t think he wants to see it though, sadly.

LU

Gene,

The Hebrew word adonai is not found in Psalm110:1.

Hi Berean,

You said:

Hi LU

AMEN

“YHWH TO MY LORD” IS RIGHT

Thanks Berean, I’m glad that you can see that.

Proclaimer,

This is my paraphrase for more clarity:

A PSALM OF DAVID. A declaration of YHWH to my Lord, YHWH our Righteousness,: “Sit at My right hand, Until I make Your enemies Your footstool.”

Jeremiah 23

5Behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that I will raise to David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and sha…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

You said:

When you put God and Lord in the same sentence, you usually assume that God is greater.

Agreed. The Father is greater than the Son because the Father as in a father/son relationship naturally has authority over his son. However the father and son would be equal in the type of being that they are.

Proclaimer,

You said: So if the prime minister said something to a minister, you would assume that the minister was not the prime minister or he would be referring to himself.

If there were two words “minister” in the sentence and one was emphatic, yes. However, in Psalm 110:1 there is only one word translatable as “Lord” from the original Hebrew.…[Read more]

Gene,

The word “LORD” in all caps is how the translators specify the name “YHVH,” not adonai in the OT. The word adonai Strongs #136 is not in Psalms 110 at all. Why you don’t know that by now is puzzling. Would you like help to learn how to read a free online interlinear which shows you the original Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic words with the…[Read more]

Proclaimer,

This is the interlinear for Psalms 110:1, it does NOT say “Adon” in it. It calls the Son “Adoni,” to be read right to left:

From here: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/psalms/110-1.htm

Please see Strong’s 113 for “Lord” and see that it does not merely mean human ruler but can also apply to a divine ruler even YHVH. Gene seems to be…[Read more]

Proclaimer

The Father identifies the Son as YHVH who laid the foundation of the earth. Enough said.

Mike,

Regarding your comment:

I’m interested to see what you’re able to find. Let us know as soon as you have something.

It is not poetry. The term is “collective singular.”

A collective noun is a name for a group of people or things such as “family,” “class,” “pack,” “bouquet,” “pair,” and “flock.” Collective nouns usually take a singular ver…[Read more]

Mike,

Regarding your question:

So the TWO of them together are our ONE Creator?  Is our ONE Creator both your Father AND your brother?  Will you state for the record that you consider yourself to be both the daughter AND the sister of our ONE Creator?

You seemed to have missed this one…

Based on the actual words that the Apostles of Jesus pra…

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You seem to not be able to grasp the idea that one identity can give his name to another identity resulting in two identities with one name.

YHVH the Father has given His name to His son who is the YHVH that laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of His hands. Heb 1:10

Proclaimer,

Israel is a he/him also.

Exodus 4:22“Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD, “Israel is My son, My firstborn. 23“So I said to you, ‘Let My son go that he may serve Me’; but you have refused to let him go. Behold, I will kill your son, your firstborn.”’”

YHVH is a He/Him. That does not mean YHVH is only one person. Israe…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

I understand being busy. I presently have had a billion things to research and select for a home that is being built “dia” me, lol.

Regarding “dia,” would you be interested to know that there is a specific grammatical form of the word that goes with the word “dia” in the sentence that does not allow for the translation “by reason of, on…[Read more]