Mike,

You said: Not a “son”.  Not a “they”.  Not a “Yahweh Unity of the Spirit”.  Just our heavenly Father named Yahweh – who is a single male person referred to as “he”.

Simply put, we disagree. Many can see it. Sorry you won’t.

Proclaimer:

You said: Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Do you agree that this is just as true according to the NASP1995:

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and the only begotten God, Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

Proclaimer,

You asked: Is this true LU? Mike may be wrong in some even many things, but at least he has the character to defend what he believes and sit on the Hot Seat.

I was never on the Hot Seat with Mike. He wanted to make a thread devoted to what I believe about the YHVH Unity and I told him that I would discuss it in a one on one…[Read more]

Gene

You asked: LU……Whose  “word” came to be the flesh man Jesus?

YHVH’s Word. The Word of YHVH the same one that appeared to Samuel here:

1 Samuel 3  21And the LORD appeared again at Shiloh, because the LORD revealed Himself to Samuel at Shiloh by the word of the LORD. 

That same “Word of the LORD” that appeared to Samuel was in the beginni…[Read more]

Gene,

You don’t know what the trinitarians teach. They don’t teach that the Son is the “principal” within the Godhead. They teach that the Father is the head within the unity.  Similarily, Jesus is the “head” within the unity of the body, the church.

HN would be a  more intelligent place to discuss things regarding faith if this concept was n…[Read more]

Many can see that The only begotten Son of God is equivalent to The only begotten God who was with God in the beginning and they together act as one within the unity of Yahweh God.  Missing that leads to what we see here on HN. Embracing The divine Unity within Yahweh will help everybody move alone in their spiritual life, imo.

Hi Adam,

It is refreshing that you also see that the NT is declaring Jesus as a “Co-person with God in all activities starting from the first creation and ending with new creation mainly based on the NT”, as you say.

Would you say that the blanks could have also said that Jesus was a Co-Yahweh with God or something similar to that?

Hi Adam,

You said this to Gene:

 Please take the example of Mike who calls Jesus another god among the multiple gods mentioned in the OT. Sister Kathi claims Jesus as another Yahweh along with Father Yahweh. Proclaimer and other preexisting believers claim that Jesus was created by God before all creation and came to Jerusalem after leaving his…

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Isaiah 43:10 “You are My witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may consider and believe Me and understand that I am He. Before Me no god was formed, and after Me none will come.

1 Corinthians 8:4
So about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world, and that<…[Read more]

https://youtu.be/zrY-uAblOeQ

Mike,

So you say that Jesus is a real actual God. You have agreed in the past that Jesus is also the only begotten God. You have also made known that you realize that Jesus has all authority in heaven and on earth.

Since you realize that Jesus is an only begotten God, then in your list of gods, Jesus is unique from all those you list since Jesus…[Read more]

Mike,

You said: But I feigned an apology for something I still know in my heart I was right about – just to appease you.  And then I did it again for the spamming – which I still believe is exactly what you did.

Thank you for admitting that you lied about that. I will wait for someone who has the integrity to be truthful, someone who shows good…[Read more]

Define real, actual gods. Do you mean gods by nature or gods not by nature yet supernatural and having some type of authority?

Mike,

You said:

 I’ve already jumped through enough hoops and feigned enough apologies for things that YOU did wrong.

Show me one time that you “feigned and apology for something I did wrong.”

You said:

For someone who wants to promote her doctrine so much that she spams every other thread with it…

Show me where you think I did this other th…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

Please address my last two posts to you. I want to see that you understand the corrections that I wrote to you. Then I will address your last post here. Thanks!

Mike,

You said:

Okay, we’re currently waiting for you to produce other scriptural instances where a named person is quoted or has an action attributed to him, and we have to pick and choose out of two possibilities who that person actually is.

And we’re waiting for an example where a group of more than one person is referred to as “he” in the…

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Mike,

You asked:

Kathi?  Who are these gods?

I do believe the question should be “who is this elohim?”

Answer: YHVH Elohim, i.e. the God of gods and the Lord of lords who is the Father and  the Son. The same YHVH elohim that made man in their image.

More corrections:

Mike you said:

Kathi, you solicited Adam about the Targums before he said anything to you in the “Gods” thread.  And he even responded by asking what the Targums have to do with the many gods of the Bible we were discussing in that thread.

Adam did not respond in a way that you say. this was our little conversation:

LU: Hi Adam…

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I accept you apology for assuming that I was being disingenuous. Before going further here, I would like to address your words lamblasting me here which were put on your Yahweh Unity thread.

Mike said to LU:

And where do you expect to discuss the Targum with Adam?  Will you just rudely keep spamming my “gods” thread and other threads with your…

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Mike,

If you are going to judge me as anything but honestly trying to answer you with sincere integrity, then this conversation is wasting my valuable time.

If you want to continue this discussion, you can show me that by treating me with respect and assuming that I am genuinely trying to thoughtfully respond to your posts in a sincere and…[Read more]