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Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You said:
First of all, does that sound anything like our shepherd Jesus? Secondly, that is indeed a prophecy, but one that was given AFTER Zechariah had already literally been given and gave back the 30 pieces of silver. It has absolutely nothing to do with the 30 pieces.
Obviously, as you can see, the shepherd is not what is s…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You said:
“In the beginning, A LIVING BEING THOUGHT TO HAVE POWERS OVER NATURE AND THE AFFAIRS OF MEN created the heaven and the earth.”
Oh look, you are saying that the idea of being in the position of having powers over nature and the affairs of men is what people believe about who or what they associate with the word “god.”
Thanks for…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
Getting old can really suck, can’t it?!
God bless, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Danny,
You said:
Jesus is the Son of the Most High. (Luke 1:32)
Since Jesus is the only begotten Son of the Most High God the Father, and is ONE with Him and they act together, wouldn’t it be reasonable that the Son part of a Most High Unity of Father and Son?
In my opinion, that would be obvious.
Danny, can you tell me of a higher unity in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Hi Berean,
Thanks again for your reply.
You said:
Psalm 24:7-10 alludes to Christ’s ascension after his resurrection, and his welcome into the Holy Heavenly City.
Are you sure or is it your opinion? Can you find scriptural evidence that ties Psalm 24 to the ascension after his resurrection?
I agree that the King of glory is Yahweh the Son but I…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic We believe… in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Hi Adam,
The brain is amazing and does die and decay. However, the soul is what I am asking about that goes on to an afterlife.
Do you believe that there actually was a man named Jesus of Nazareth? Do your historians believe this?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Hi Berean,
Thanks for your input.
Do you think that Psalms 24 is about this:
Rev 19:11And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war. 12His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many crowns; and He has a name written on Him which no one…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
Show me the “this is going to happen in the future” part of the Zech passage, because I don’t see it.
Zech 11:16For behold, I will raise up a shepherd in the land who will neither care for the lost, nor seek the young, nor heal the broken, nor sustain the healthy, but he will devour the flesh of the choice sheep and tear off t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You said:
So even IF (it’s not true, but even IF) our Lord, who is named Jesus, was also named Yahweh after his father, it STILL wouldn’t make Jesus the Most High God, or even PART of a Most High God unity anyway.
His relationship with the Father makes Him part of a Most High God unity.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You said:
But none of those are the same BEING as their fathers, Kathi.
I never said they were.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike wants us to believe that every time you see the word “god” you can substitute “living being thought to have powers over nature and the affairs of men.”
Let’s see:
40They said to Aaron, ‘Make us gods (living beings thought to have powers over nature and the affairs of men) who will go before us! As for this Moses who led us out of the land o…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Hi Danny,
If a guy named Israel, had a son who he named Israel the Israel would be the name of a father, his son, and a unity-the nation of Israel.
many sons are named after their fathers, Danny.
Blessings,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
What PROPHECY did it fulfill, Kathi?
https://www.wilmingtonfavs.com/king-babylon/lachish-letter-iv.html
According to this, both Jeremiah and Zechariah knew of the same prophecy. It is written in Zechariah previously mentioned and in something discovered and called a Lachish Letter which is where Jeremiah had written.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
The word “god” is an idea, a position of authority that a thing or being/beings have. It is a position that can be assigned or a position that is inherently assumed. In the case of the Father and Son, it is inherently assumed since they are of eternal essence and before all things.
There are things or beings in positions of importance and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
“If the combo of Heb 1:5 and Sam 7:14 doesn’t equate the persons of Jesus and Solomon, why must the combo of Matt 27:9 and Zech 11:13 equate the persons of Jesus and Yahweh?”
That’s like asking if apples are red, why must cherries be?
There are many connections that suggest that Yahweh is not just the father. Matt 27:9 and Zech…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
Btw, I would guess that people who have given the position of god to food and material things don’t really think they need saving.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike
Are you saying that the story about Judas receiving 30 pieces of silver in exchange for the whereabouts of Jesus is not a fulfillment of prophecy recorded in the OT?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You said:
But let’s try it with your definition and see if it works…
Philippians 3:19… Their end is destruction, their god “idea/position” is the belly, they exult in their shame, and they think about earthly things.
My paraphrase: Their end is destruction, the god position they have put their appetite for earthly things in is higher than…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
is your Yahweh Unity ONE God (ie: one BEING) made up of multiple persons? Or TWO Gods (ie: two BEINGS)?
Neither.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 7 months ago
Mike,
Did you see that I never tied the prophecy of the 30 pieces of silver to the prophet Zechariah but to the passage in Zechariah? You corrected me for something I did not do.
Furthermore, would you please restate the point or copy and paste it so I know what specifically you want me to address? Many things have been said. Maybe we should do…[Read more]
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