Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,06:11)Quote (Fulloffaith @ Jan. 21 2012,12:07)Interesting discussion…what I have noticed is that poster's understandings for “this age,” and satan seem to be all over the place.Now this might cause some division but can we approach this from the perspective and understanding of the original poster, KJ?KJ, please…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 19 2012,21:21)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 19 2012,05:44)Isn't it funny how t8 rejects tradition regarding the trinity doctrine but subscribes to the foolish teachings of tradition on satan?KJkj, you are defeated already.If you want another round, then prepare for defeat again.You cannot prosper with your false doctrine.There is no…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 19 2012,10:14)I whole-heartedly agree with that statement, Jack.  And I have been scripturally supporting that statement for 442 pages now.  I've even used the scripture you quoted.Cool!

Mikeboll wrote:Quote Jesus WAS flesh.  Jesus is NOW a life-giving SPIRIT. Spirits don't have flesh and bone, remember?Mike,You are correct that spirits do not have flesh and bones. But they have bodily shape. Jesus said of His Father,”You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form” (shape, KJV).Everything must have shape and is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 19 2012,08:06)Hey JackI have to admit I rejected this one at first, but now I see it in light of the context. Looks like another Blow to the anti-Jesus is God folks who confess that there are many gods and that Jesus is a god like all other so-called gods.You could post that one in the Anti-Jesus is God Fallacies…[Read more]

TO ALL,On another forum a person said that the prince of this age in John 12:31 is to be equated with the “god of this age” of 2 Corinthians 4:4.This was my reply:You say that the “prince of this age” in John 12 is to be equated with the “god of this age” in 2 Corinthians 4. Prove it! I think a better translation is,“God has blinded the minds of…[Read more]

Isn't it funny how t8 rejects tradition regarding the trinity doctrine but subscribes to the foolish teachings of tradition on satan?KJ

Wakeup said to ftk:Quote FTK.John.12:31.Now is the judgement of this WORLD(not age)Now shall the prince of this WORLD(not age) be cast out.(These are the Lords words.)Jesus said, “NOW the prince of this world is cast out.” Jesus said that he was cast out “NOW.”So how could he blind the minds of men if he was cast out “NOW?”KJ

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 18 2012,09:50)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 15 2012,10:07)2 Corinthians 4:4 as it reads in most translations:whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of the God, should shine on them.For much of my christian life life I was misled to…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 18 2012,07:31)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 15 2012,10:07)2 Corinthians 4:4 as it reads in most translations:whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of the God, should shine on them.For much of my christian life life I was misled to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 17 2012,09:37)Where does Paul say that, Jack?Mike,Your question reflects that you are unteachable. Plain and simple. Paul said that there is a natural body (a flesh and blood body), and there is a spiritual body (an ethereal body).Likewise he said that the first MAN was from the earth and that the second MAN is from…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 17 2012,08:38)Jack,”Man” refers to “human being”.  There has never been a human being who did not consist of flesh, because that's what human beings are made of.Now you say Jesus doesn't have flesh anymore, and I agree.  But a being WITHOUT flesh is no longer a human being, and therefore no longer a “man”.45 So it is w…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 11 2012,11:29)Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 10 2012,11:31)Mike,I believe your missing the point Job was making, he realized that although he would die and his flesh rot, he would see God with his very own eyes, stressing that it was his, not anothers. My opinion – WmHi Wm,Did you read the NETNotes info I posted?  The part in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 22 2011,11:29)Wakeup,Welcome to HN!You are right in that God cannot die…that is one reason why He begat His Son who is God like the Father God and referred to as the begotten God.  Angels cannot die either. Christ was made lower than the angels so He could suffer death. He was made lower than the angels NOT by being…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2011,12:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 21 2011,18:29)That way one of them could empty Himself and become something that COULD DIE (a fleshly man) while the other (the Father) would remain in complete control and not be empty of His power and authority……..One of THEM?  The other of THEM?  Kathi, the ONLY way your words w…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 16 2012,03:17)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 15 2012,10:05)Toby……….I think our biggest difference is i see Spirit as ASPECTS of a BEING, while you seem to see them as COMPLETE beings,Actually Gene,You see spirits as “complete beings” in the form of angels.  You just won't accept the scriptures that say angels ARE…[Read more]

ftk said:Quote For all:  The religious world today has a greater faith in Satan than they do in Jesus. Their duped realities and distorted doctrines have created a universal picture in the hearts and minds of the religious world of Satan as a master and ruler of this world ftk,Right on Bro! The common picture of satan that exists in the minds of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 16 2012,01:36)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 15 2012,10:07)2 Corinthians 4:4 as it reads in most translations:whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of the God, should shine on them.For much of my christian life life I was…[Read more]

ED J said:Quote “ois the god of this age etyflosen the meanings of the infidels against the non avgasai illumination of the gospel of the glory of Christ does Estin image of god”Google translations of 2Cor.4:4 seems to disagree with your use of Greek?   …any comments?I have already refuted the pagan like translations. I gave the preferred…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 11 2012,13:36)In deference to the origins of this website, I'll remind people that the national religion of New Zealand is rugby union, and its adherents still look somewhat sideways at rugby union players who wear padding.  As for helmets, or TV breaks dictated by the networks, or throwing the ball in the direction of the goal,…[Read more]