Nick said:Quote Rather it says he BROUGHT HIS SON into the world.Last September I “brought” my daughter to Indiana to attend college. Does that mean that she did not exist before I “brought” her to Indiana? And does “brought” mean “to create”? You infer too much Nick.thinker

Seeking said:Quote The churches were familiar with a method of letter distributionand were encouraged to circulate letters among themselves.Seeking,The churches would have needed to know about the letter before they could circulate it. How did they find out about the letter? John was exiled on Patmos where the Romans sent criminals to do hard…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2009,11:55)Hi tt, What do you assume they did? Or is it written?In Scripture persons were always sent with a message. Revelation 5:6 says that the seven spirits were “sent.” Therefore, they had a message to give someone. Who was the message for if not the seven churches? You always avoid questions people put to you.My…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 21 2009,10:39)Nick………..The LORD GOD (He Exists with POWERS) is the Spirit ,  “For God is a Spirit and He who worships Him must worship HIM in Spirit and truth. (WHY) because GOD IS SPIRIT>Not the Lord Jesus Christ, He (HAS)  the Seven Spirits of GOD (IN) Him but he himself is not the Spirits. When you use the word LORD y…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2009,11:19)Hi tt, You make some sort of connection between the work of the the angels in Rev1 and that of the seven spirits in Rev 5. Wht gives you the right to assume that connection? Is it written?What were the seven spirits sent to Asia to do? Were they sent to eat cotton candy and do sight seeing? Or were they sent…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 21 2009,10:31)WJ…………Jesus said God was a Spirit, then said He was not a Spirit remember, “For a Spirit has not flesh and bone as you see i Have”. So there must be a difference right. And why would God say and I (SHALL) be a FATHER unto Him and He Shall be a SON unto ME, if He already was a SON of GOD. peace and love to…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Jesus emptied out His SOUL UNTO DEATH. That included His Will Nick. As Scripture says. ONLY ONE WILL Nick and that is GODS will be done, all others must go.You are only partially right Gene. If Jesus had asserted His will the Father would have sent Him twelve legions of angels. So it was only the Father's will from Jesus'…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote We are not allowed to build our human reasoning into sacred doctrine.How did you get the book?Perhaps others did in the same way?Nick,It says in chapter 5:6 that the seven spirits were “sent” to go to and fro in all the land. Were the seven spirits sent with John's message to the seven churches? Or were they sent into all the land…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote Peter did not say that this was the full expression of what was shown in Jl 2 and any cursory glance at those verses will show this.Neither did Peter say that fulfillment was in their future as you suggested with your idea that the word of the Lord is yet come from Jerusalem. The word of the Lord came from Jerusalem until the time…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 21 2009,06:57)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 21 2009,03:24)Nick said:Quote I do agree angels are spirits as Heb 1 shows.I do not agree with your shallow assumption that angels and not John gave us Revelation.Nick,Show where I said that the Revelation did not come from John. And then show how John distributed the Revelation to…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote I do agree angels are spirits as Heb 1 shows.I do not agree with your shallow assumption that angels and not John gave us Revelation.Nick,Show where I said that the Revelation did not come from John. And then show how John distributed the Revelation to the seven churches in Asia seeing he was physically bound to the isle of Patmos.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2009,20:38)Hi tt, Not so. The outpouring on ALL flesh as described in Joel 2 is yet to be seen.Have you yet to recieve this wonderful downpayment on salvation?Perhaps you will not do so if you deny the promised blessingNick,Peter contradicts you. he said,Quote This is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel:”And it…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 19 2009,08:42)Hi tt, The Spirit of Christ was the rock .Nick,Paul did not say that the “spirit” of Christ was the rock. He said that “the rock was Christ.” Are you suggesting that the spirit of a person is not the person?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2009,10:58)Hi tt, Do you really think God did not know? Was He not just exposing their deceit?Nick,Yes! I really think that YHWH Elohim did not know where Adam was exactly. But what about the fact that YHWH was walking? Does this not infer that He assumed human form?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2009,09:41)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 20 2009,09:35)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2009,07:50)Hi WJ,So all things are FROM GOD and THROUGH him and TO HIM.All these things are not said of the Son.But then the Son is the Son of God.Nick,Have you not read Colossians 3:17? Speaking of JESUS Paul said,Quote All things were…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote When Jesus rules from Jerusalem the word will go out from there.You have just inferred that the last days are in the future and do not apply to us today. For the word of the Lord goes out from Jerusalem IN THE LAST DAYS WHEN THE SPIRIT IS POURED OUT. So we both agree that the pouring out of the Spirit does not apply today. For me…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Thinker ….. I use to think that they were all written in lower case letters also but i read where they were all in capital letters, But either way, where does it say the the messengers or angles are Spirits. A Spirit is a intellect or an expression of thought. No where do i recall scripture saying the a Spirit is a person. Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2009,09:53)Hi tt, Are you taking away from what is written in Rev1?Read Rev22I have no idea what you're talking about Nick. First you say “I agree.” Now you question what I say and then refer me to chapters 21-22 without any comment   I can't read your mind.thinker

Nick said:Quote Intellectual acceptance of biblical facts is not true faith and it simply gives us less excuse for not obeying.Should we rely on what our weak eyes can see of the work of God among men as useful evidence?If we see little of that work is it because there is no faith on earth because God demands that faith?Nick,If a father says to…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote You have no way of knowing rather the word spirit should be capitalized or not , because all original Greek was written in capital letters.Gene,You have it backwards. All the original Greek was written in lower case. I just checked it out to make sure. In Revelation 1:4 “spirits” is written in the lower case. So the capital “S” is…[Read more]