Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2009,11:24)Hi TT, Read again. Why do you defend the indefensible?Kicking against the goad is not advisable yet you teach what Jesus did not teach.You have no qualms about meeting him on this basis?Nick,I asked you a simple question. Are you as worthy as the Lamb because you are a servant? The twenty-four elders were…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote The lamb is worthy of all the honor, glory and blessings that God has given him, so now will you please confess that the Lamb is not God.also remember you cannot call the lamb “”God” lest you sin and say the Most High is the image of a beast such as a lamb which is a created thing.bd,At least you are doing better than Nick.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2009,10:53)Hi TT, All the faithful servants of God are to be honoured.But by your own words the Lamb is WITH GOD. How did you get conned into trinity?Nick,So you are worthy as the Lamb because you are a “servant?” The twenty-four elders would fall down and worship you too?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2009,10:44)Quote (thethinker @ June 15 2009,10:38)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2009,10:16)Hi TT, So the Lamb is not GOD?Nick,I said that the distinction was ordinal. See for yourself that both God and the Lamb receive EQUAL honor and glory and worship. Quote Worthy is the Lamb who was slain to receive power and riches…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2009,10:45)Hi TT, Two as equals? Two gods then?Nick,Quote Let US make man in OUR imageONE God in TWO Persons. thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 15 2009,10:16)Hi TT, So the Lamb is not GOD?Nick,I said that the distinction was ordinal. See for yourself that both God and the Lamb receive EQUAL honor and glory and worship. Quote Worthy is the Lamb who was slain to receive power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing! And every creature…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ June 15 2009,06:19)Paladin……………….well put., many here have that same problem (indoctrination) They don't seem to be able to shake it off, the false teaching of so-call “Christian” organizations , people who don't love truth, God sends to them a deluding spirit in order for them to believe LIES.  So if God Has sent them a…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote How does being given authority make one equal to he who gives him that authority?Paladin,The answer to your question lies in the authority that has been given. Jesus is seated at the right hand of His Father which is a position of EQUALITY and indicates EQUAL authority. And men had better get with the program because he who does…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Once again you made a fatal error while trying to prove your point:you said “It is said TWO times that the throne of God is also the throne of the lamb.”So obviously there is “God” and then there is “the lamb”who in this scripture is God and who in this scripture is the lamb?bd,Not a “fatal error” as you say. Christ is…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ June 15 2009,00:01)Whatever your problem is thinker there still is no trinity.Ephesians 4:6 says that the Father is above All, and in us All. Jesus also says that “My Father is greater then I.”  Also the Spirit is the Spirit of God the Father. No 3in1. Nowhere in the Bible can you find the trinity written.  When it is not written n…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2009,19:59)Quote (Cindy @ June 13 2009,11:02)Hi Mandy and thank you.  I have been gone, have you noticed?  I hurt myself on the chair and my Leg is still black and blue.  It hurt to walk on it, so I have not been on the Computer at all. Love IreneOh, Irene I'm so sorry to hear that!I'm not here regularly enough anymore to…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote You are incorrect the scripture saysGenesis 127 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. He referred to the man and woman together as them.I see the problem here you were not sure how the semicolon is used.No sir. The online Hebrew-English Interlinear…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Then why is Jesus calling The Father “My God” in revelations pertaining to making those who overcome “a pillar in the temple of My God”?Trinitarian's confess that Christ was under God in His mediatorial capacity.bodhitharta said:Quote Revelation 22:3 (Young's Literal Translation)3and any curse there shall not be any more,…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote You have even made it more certain as the scripture you gave proves further that Jesus has a throne that is not the throne of the Father which is the throne of God.Notice who owns the throne”My Fathers throne”bd,You keep thinking you have dealt some kind of “death blow” to trinitarianism. Let me assure you that this is true…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote God called Adam and Eve “MAN” because it is a reference to their species. But the man and woman together were still called “him” by Moses. The two persons were still called “him.” So Bodhitharta must fine another line of reasoning because he said that God cannot be referred to as “him” if He exists as more than one person.…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote Plural” MEANS more than one. “Unity” MEANS “a whole or totallity combining its parts into one.” Are you saying that trinity doctrine now teaches God is a combination of “PARTS?”That would make Jehovah, his son Jesus Christ, and his Holy Spirit, PARTS of the one true God. Hmmmmm!!!! Don't remember reading THAT in scripture. Give…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote Show me one post in which I translated a personal pronoun as “it.”You're kidding right? thinker

Quote (t8 @ June 13 2009,13:37)So your gospel is that God became flesh and died and rose again.That is not what you read in scripture however. It is not what Paul, Peter, John, or Jesus taught.It was the Logos who became flesh and it is antichrist to deny that Jesus came in the flesh. So it is within the realm of deception to deny Jesus coming in…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote BESIDE JEHOVAH THERE IS NO ELOHIYMIsaiah 44:6 Thus saith JEHOVAH the King of Israel, and his redeemer JEHOVAH of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no Elohiym .Isaiah 44:6 is about Christ. Paladin failed to see that YHWH called Himself Israel's “goel” which means blood-relative redeemer. The…[Read more]

bodhitharts said:Quote 1 Corinthians 1528and when the all things may be subjected to him, then the Son also himself shall be subject to Him, who did subject to him the all things, that God may be the all in all. This clearly sates that Jesus will be subject to God in his exalted state. But just to be clear lets back up a little and realize that…[Read more]