Paladin said:Quote No, Paul said no such thing. He NEVER SAID “CHRIST IS THE ROCK.” In fact, he said nothing at all about “Christ” in the reference cited. He told us something about “that rock.”He said “that rock was anointed.An anointed lump of minerals? Okay…..  Some of you guys will say the most ridiculous things. That one made my day.    …[Read more]

Hey guys,I don't know how this got posted twicethinker

Paladin said:Quote It is power to forgive sins on earth that the Jews were calling blasphemy.Greetings Pd,Please compare Matthew's account with Luke's account.Matthew's account: “At once some of the scribes said within themselves, 'This man blasphemes!' ” (9:3)Luke's account: “And the scribes and pharisees began to reason saying, 'Who is this who…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 16 2009,10:22)Hi thethinker:For unto us a child is born, and unto us a son is given. And the government shall be upon His shoulder. And HIS NAME shall be called Wonderful. Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER, PRINCE OF PEACE…. (Isaiah 9:6) Please explain Isaiah 9:6.The scripture states that his “name” shall be…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ June 16 2009,03:51)thinker  In Ephesians were it says that there is ' one Body, one Spirit, one Baptism, one Lord (Jesus Christ), one Faith, one Father of all, who is above all and in us all. Yo make sure that you don't claim, that Lord is not Jesus, in Chapter 3:13-17 it explains who is who. Also Jesus himself talks about His…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ June 19 2009,01:12)You know what thinker  You should really study this a little more, and not jump to conclusion.  I know how hard it is to change ones view, but look at these Scriptures I gave. I had to on this and other subjects.  I called the guy that first told us about it, crazy.  But God did not leave me in that unbelief, and…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ June 19 2009,01:06)datguy…..     thinker I have to stand up for what is right, that was not nice at all to say that to datguy.  I happen to agree with Her, that Jesus preexisted His birth on the earth. We have Scriptures that state it. Col. 1:15 states ” He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Re…[Read more]

Lightenup said to datguy:Quote The Son of GOD was begotten of the Most High GOD before anything came into being in heaven or on earth.dg,Don't you believe it! The Scriptures no where say that Christ was begotten “before anything came into being.” We are told THREE times in the new testament that the Son was begotten at His exaltation. There is…[Read more]

thethinker said:Quote God cannot give the authority to forgive sins to a mere man. Paladin replied replied:Quote WoW! Does God know that?Luke 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote What part of “God gave Jesus all power” does NOT, repeat, NOT apply to forgiving sins?PD,Your reasoning is circular. God cannot give the authority to forgive sins to a mere man. This is why the Jews accused Jesus of blasphemy when He claimed He had the authority to forgive sins.God can only grant to God such authority!thinker

Marty said:Quote Why are trying to justify your belief by a grammatical rule when there are many clear scriptures that show that there is only “One God”, and that Jesus is a man.Marty, You cannot handle the grammatical rule so your solution is to just discard it? The Scriptures do not teach that there is one God in the sense you say. It teaches…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2009,22:01)Hi TT, So Two gods are the source for you if you differentiate the Father from the Son? Are you confused or polytheistic?Nick,YHWH said that He is the Rock and that He knows of no other Rock (Isaiah 44:8). Paul said that Christ is the Rock. Therefore….btw, YHWH also said that He is “Elohim” which you know…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote Hi thethinker:Even if it is speaking of the future, the scriptures state: 2Cr 5:18 And all things of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;  2Cr 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote Hi thethinker:My point is that he was saying he was the first born from the dead and that he is now alive eternally, therefore, he is the last.  Goel according to Strong's can mean blood relative or kinsman redeemer, but not necessarily.  Look up the definition.Marty,The Strong's Concordance I have says that goel means “the next o…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Jesus did not ask for strength he asked that the cup be taken from himHebrews 5 (King James Version)7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; The scripture says he was…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote No, thinker this is what it says: “LOOKING FOR THAT BLESSED HOPE, AND THE GLORIOUS APPEARING OF THE GREAT GOD AND OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST”  “Of 'THE' Great God and our saviour Jesus Christ”.Marty,Again I ask you to go to the opening post on this thread and read the grammatical rule that applies to Titus 2:13. Pretty please!Marty…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote Hey thinker, who was the idiot who said “son of man” is a divine title?I have shown you that “son of man” can reference anything from a worm to the son of God. NONE of them are “divine titles.”Even “Son of God” is not a divine title, it is a reference. No wonder trinitarians can't focus, they have so many side issues to try to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ June 18 2009,02:00)WJ………..Hope all goes well for your wife brother. peace and love to you and yours…………………………..geneHi WJ,Your wife will be in my prayers too. If you need someone to take care of the kids give Gene a call   thinker

Marty said:Quote God delivered Israel out of Egyptian bondage to Pharoah, and so that is what He means by being their redeemer.Marty, The problem with your explanation is that it ignores the context in Isaiah 44:6. It's NOT speaking about a past redemption from the bondage of Egypt. It is speaking about a FUTURE redemption. The redemption spoken…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,You have arrived at a theory of what that means.  Nothing more than a theory.  You will not see the word “history” or “eternal one” in the context.  Isn't the message merely that He is the first and last at something which is not disclosed in this context and therefore not necessary to pin down.Kathi,Please explain Is…[Read more]