Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,08:11)Hi TT, The vision of Is 6 is of God.Unless you believe there are two godsNick,The apostle John said that Isaiah saw the glory of our Lord Jesus (John 12:41). Sorry   thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,08:12)Hi TT, That is a popular opinion but unsupported by scriptureNick,What does reconciliation mean to you?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,08:15)Hi TT, Jesus had his own throne in heaven shown in Is 6?Nick,Thank you. You have just affirmed what the apostle John said that Isaiah saw the glory of Jesus (Adoney).thinker  

Quote (TechJoe @ June 26 2009,08:16)How’s this for simple; Jesus awakened the Spirit so that I can communicate with the Father. If there is no Jesus than the Spirit cannot be awakened and I cannot communicate with the Father and I cannot be redeemed. If there is no Spirit than there is nothing for Jesus to awaken and I cannot communicate with t…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to kathi:Quote Now compare this with this…Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and “THERE IS NO OTHER. By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked: “BEFORE ME EVERY KNEE WILL BOW; BY ME EVERY TONGUE WILL SWEAR” They will say of me, 'In the Lord (Y…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Please try real hard not to read into the scriptures with your Henotheistic glasses on please.“HenotheismHenotheists recognize a single deity, and view other Gods and Goddesses as manifestations or aspects of that supreme God.  They choose one aspect to worship without denying the existence of other aspects or…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Paladin:Quote Why are you always flipping things around and accusing me for misquoting you?WJ,I have noticed this too. Paladin does not own up to the implications that follow from what he says. So he accuses others of misrepresenting him.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,06:29)Hi TT, So when Paul spoke of those who had fallen asleep what did he mean?Hi Nick,All who died up until Christ's coming in AD70 were old covenant saints. Therefore they had to sleep in hades. All saints after AD70 are new covenant saints and they do not sleep. They go straight to God.thinker

Paladin said:Quote There is NO reference in John's remarks about Isaiah 6. That is the choice of a trinitarian argument, that insists Isaiah 6 cross-references John 12:41.Paladin,What! You say thare is no mention of Isaiah 6. In verse 40 John cited Isaiah 6:9-10 which says,Quote He has blinded their minds and hardened their hearts, lest they…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ June 26 2009,02:51)Paladin……….Why can't these people understand these things? You have correctly explained , It just is amazing at the depth of indoctrination in the minds of men. If they had truly loved the truth they could see these things clearly. Thank for your Posts brother they are certainly needed Here. Let the Spirit…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ June 26 2009,05:10)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,09:59)Quote (SEEKING @ June 26 2009,04:48)Quote (thethinker @ June 19 2009,01:27)Please explain how YHWH can refer to Himself as “US” if He is not a plural entity.So far nobody here has explained anything.thinkerThinker,Help me grasp your train of thought here. If I, with my…[Read more]

WorshipingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Hi KathiSo you think that invalidates John 1:1-3?Your argument is a red herring and leaves out the fact that Jesus who was in very nature God left his place of Glory and submitted to the Father by becoming a servant through taking on the likeness of sinful flesh and being found in fashion as a man declared the…[Read more]

thethinker said to Lightenup:Quote Christ was begotten at His resurrection and exaltation. Christ's Sonship has to do with His office as Mediator. It simply means that He is the head of the covenantal family. God is spirit and spirits do not literally beget.thinker bodhitharta replied:Quote You see what happens when people start believing that God…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ June 26 2009,04:48)Quote (thethinker @ June 19 2009,01:27)Please explain how YHWH can refer to Himself as “US” if He is not a plural entity.So far nobody here has explained anything.thinkerThinker,Help me grasp your train of thought here. If I, with my buddy Joe present, say to you, “Thinker, join US at the ball game”how does that…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote Don't ever again accuse me of “dragging WJ into” our discussion.Paladin,Would you please try to act more your age? Paladin said:Quote Verses 3 and 10 both use egeneto, which, though the Lexicographers will tell you means “create” It is NEVER so translated in the New Testament, because it is a reference to “becoming through…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,He literally was begotten of the Father.Kathi,How can you say that Christ was literally begotten seeing that God is spirit?  Lightenup said:Quote The Son's resurrection was proof that the Son accomplished the main purpose of His being begotten in the first place.  The resurrection didn't cause Him to be begotten “…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote John 12:41 These things said Esaias, when he saw “autou” glory, and spake of “autou” .”His,” “Him,”  Hmmmmm. a moment!  Nope! adonay is not spelled “a” – “u” – “t” – “o” – “u.” I really seriously don't think”Adonay” is in the verse in John's statement.Paladin,Whose glory did Isaiah see? And to whom did John apply the p…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2009,21:59)Hi TT,Th price is paid. Some have accepted the offer. But few have let the Spirit lead them . Half of even the close friends, the bridesmaids, remain outside.All who believe are reconciled to God and therefore go straight to God when they leave this earth. Soul sleep was old covenant. thinker

Quote (Lightenup @ June 24 2009,04:50)Quote (thethinker @ June 23 2009,12:36)Quote (Lightenup @ June 22 2009,14:25)Quote (thethinker @ June 21 2009,19:03)Quote (Lightenup @ June 20 2009,09:26)Here is a long message given from a former high priest satanist who is now a born again believer.  It is good to be aware of the schemes of satan.  It is w…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2009,06:12)Hi TT, Hades will be cast into the fire but only when the end comes and it has no further use.Only the brothers of Jesus are taken to the mansions of Christ.Nick,All God's people have been reconciled to Him. Does the wife keep her husband sleeping on the couch after they are reconciled? There is no need for…[Read more]