Quote (Cindy @ June 27 2009,05:04)Tim  If you can find me a Church that does not believe in the Trinity, and believes in Grace, I would be the first to go. Nick is right, I am glad to be here and some believes are true while others are wrong.  That is a way to prove all things. It looks like you believe in a Trinity. Do you?The Church of God is a…[Read more]

Lightenup said to WJ:Quote Keith,Wisdom is a female because the gender of the word “wisdom” is female…is that your argument?  With that logic then Jesus can't be eternal life because eternal life is female in gender.You know that the gender of words do not mean they represent things of only the same gender. Words that are masculine in gender do…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2009,10:26)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,18:10)WorshippingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Hi KathiDo you see Jesus name or any reference to the Son in Proverbs 8?Ambiguous territory!In Proverbs 8 wisdom is personified in the feminine gender (vs.1). The book was written in poetic form and it simply means that God in His…[Read more]

Quote (Country boy @ June 27 2009,05:06)Quote (Gene @ June 27 2009,03:48)country boy……….welcome to the form…………Jesus meant by that that He and the Father are one in agreement brother, imopeace and love to you and yours……………………….geneIf that's all he was saying, then what made the Jews so angry? Verse 31 goes on to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2009,11:11)Quote (thethinker @ June 26 2009,09:57)Bodhitharta said;Quote Did you not see the direct statement “I am God and not Man”?If God says I am God and not Manand you agree that God does not change wouldn't God have to now change to say He is God and became a Man or that He is also a Man?You have to admit the…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote John did most certainly NOT cite Isaiah 6:9-10. Nor did he quote Isaiah. The language is different in the two verses.Paladin,John said that he was citing Isaiah,Quote These things Isaiah said when he saw His glory.You say that Isaiah 52:13 and 53:12 fulfill the requirements of John's reference to Isaiah's report. Where do you…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ June 27 2009,02:52)WJ…………Is your bible an edited version of the original you quote out of , I think so, Paladin is right you need to give the POPE credit , because its the Catholics bible and Catholics 600 scholars you quote from. right? What the difference between Chatholics and Protestants they both believe and teach the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ June 27 2009,03:48)country boy……….welcome to the form…………Jesus meant by that that He and the Father are one in agreement brother, imopeace and love to you and yours……………………….geneGene,You are wrong. Jesus had just said that no man can pluck His sheep out of His hand or out of the Father's hand. Then He…[Read more]

Irene said:Quote thinkerWhat is so difficult to understand about the “us”?The Father created all things through his son, including man, Col. 1:16, Father and son is “us”.Irene,I have explained it before. Elohim said “Let US create man in OUR image.” The reference to “OUR image” is the image of God. Please read the text carefully.thinker

Quote (SEEKING @ June 27 2009,03:36)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,14:48)Seeking,But in the meantime….thinkerI am persuaded that most, if not all, of us desire to follow Jesus and become like Him to the best of our understanding.SeekingAmen brother! I miserably fail though   thinker

Worshippingjesus said:Quote Jesus came to save the world but now that he is exalted at the right hand of the Father all Judgment is in his hands.Also Psalm 110:1 shows the Son at the Fathers right hand, so the Father is not at the right hand of the Son in verse 5.This is a gross error on your part!WJ,I marvel that Paladin can say that the Father…[Read more]

Paladin,We have been over this before and my reply will always be the same. Verse 10 says that the world came in to being through Him and that the world knew Him not. The world that was ignorant of Him was NOT the new creation. And please stop trying to pass yourself off as a scholar of the bblical languages. We know you have no credentials. thinker

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2009,10:01)Quote (thethinker @ June 26 2009,09:57)Bodhitharta said;Quote Did you not see the direct statement “I am God and not Man”?If God says I am God and not Manand you agree that God does not change wouldn't God have to now change to say He is God and became a Man or that He is also a Man?You have to admit the…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Hi KathiDo you see Jesus name or any reference to the Son in Proverbs 8?Ambiguous territory!In Proverbs 8 wisdom is personified in the feminine gender (vs.1). The book was written in poetic form and it simply means that God in His wisdom created all things.thinker

Lightenup said:Quote What does the “word” mean?  What does the word represent? The whole idea about “eternal word” is nonsense.  What the word “word” represents is what is with God and what the word in the beginning represents is what was God. IMOKathi,Have it your way. From now on I will say, “The Being that word represented is eternal.”Quote In t…[Read more]

Bodhitharta said;Quote Did you not see the direct statement “I am God and not Man”?If God says I am God and not Manand you agree that God does not change wouldn't God have to now change to say He is God and became a Man or that He is also a Man?You have to admit the scripture is clear there isn't it? You keep saying God is a man and God is saying…[Read more]

Quote (SEEKING @ June 26 2009,09:37)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,12:10)Seeking,Revelation 22 says that the water of life proceeds from the throne of God and of the Lamb. I see one Kingship in two persons reigning SIMULTANEOUSLY and not in succession as Bush and Obama. I see a plural unity. If you don't that 's fine with me.How have you been…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Almighty God sent His Son to glorify his Father.bd,You're not telling the whole story. Shame on you! Though it is true that God sent the Son to glorify the Father afterwards the Spirit was sent to glorify the Son,Quote …He will glorify Me…( John 16:14)Now Now bd! You must pretend you are in a court of law where you are…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2009,08:58)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,15:47)WorshippingJesus said to Kathi:Quote Please try real hard not to read into the scriptures with your Henotheistic glasses on please.“HenotheismHenotheists recognize a single deity, and view other Gods and Goddesses as manifestations or aspects of that supreme God.  They…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote Thinker and WJ,And I thought that you guys say that the “word” submitted to the Father and became a servant.  You say that it was an “eternal word” that existed before it became flesh.But that would make no sense since a word cannot submit or not submit, it is just an expression of a thought.BTW, the Son declared the Father…[Read more]