Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 10 2009,08:48)Hi Not3, What is the relevance of rituals?God is not of empty ritualsFaith is the issue.Whatever is not of faith is of sin.Can you not put aside the dross that comes from man's folly?Baptism is a “ritual” which you believe saves a man. You are more Catholic than you are willing to admit.thinker

CA said:Quote Besides if the Church is not organized, then why in the world did St. Paul ordain bishops and deacons and command the believers to obey those who had the rule over them and say that they had watch over their souls? (Heb. 13:17)The ordination of bishops and deacons was necessary in the interim period between the old and the new…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 10 2009,05:15)Psst!  Thinker……  Do you know what I think?  I think a lot of Christians are going to be surprised to see who is sitting next to them at the great Dinner of our Lord.  Love,MandyMandy,I have a lot of respect for you. You're real cool. thinker

Irene said:Quote Mandy  You surprise me, because I thought that you said you don't believe in the Trinity Doctrine,and now you act like ypu like this guy. Some times I don't understand you.  Still I will always love you. Sorry but I don't like that He is here, at all.IreneBut bodhitharta is okay. Right? He denies that Christ was crucified; he c…[Read more]

Bodhitharta said:Quote I have just realized that no one actually believes in the “Trinity” Judaism calls it gentile consciousness and it is more like a disability to them than a reality, they say that a Jewish Consciousness is Monotheistic Jewish “Monotheists” rejected their Messiah. True or false? Moses, A Jew, and Hagar the mother of Arabs…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote I disagree that the spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit.  The spirit of Christ is the spirit of the Son which is the Word of God that has come from God to humanity through him and is that Word of God that he obeyed without sin even unto death on the cross.thinker

WorshippingJesus said:Quote The burden of proof is on the anti-trinitarians to prove that John 1:1 should be read any different!Yes WJ! And the fact that anti-trinitarians have such a “Heinz 57” view of John 1:1 and cannot speak with one voice shows that they are denying that which plainly stares them in their faces. Paladin says that the Word was…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 09 2009,07:34)Hi TT,Why would you argue with Paul whose servanthood is not in doubt?Did you not think Jesus submitted to God?The apostles said “to Christ be THE glory for ever and ever.” They said also “to the Father be THE glory for ever and ever.” Equal glory implies equality. The servant is not necessarily lesser…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 09 2009,07:34)Hi TT,Why would you argue with Paul whose servanthood is not in doubt?Did you not think Jesus submitted to God?The apostles said “to Christ be THE glory for ever and ever.” They said also “to the Father be THE glory for ever and ever.” Equal glory implies equality. The servant is not necessarily lesser…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 09 2009,07:21)Hi TT, God sent His servant and His spirit which was infilled into him.Does this confuse you? Surely you know Jesus was a servant of God and filled with God's Spirit from the Jordan?He was servant indeed. But in Isaiah He is called the Creator. Here is a multiple choice question for you,The creator was: 1. a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 09 2009,07:18)hi TT, And as John said we have seen the glory of the only begotten son.God works through His son. What is your point?The point is that the glory of which Christ is “counted worthy” is EQUAL to glory given to God (Hebrews 1:1-3).This destroys your argument “God was IN Christ reconciling the world to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 09 2009,07:16)Hi TT, So if your finger is if you are there two of you? Did you cut it off?Nick,I assumed we were both speaking metaphorically. I have one reliable employee who is my “finger.” Me + my finger (employee) = twoIs it really that hard for you Nick? thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 09 2009,06:31)Hi TT, Is there ONE scripture that says God is a trinity? Where?Is Jesus to you the same God the Jews worshipped?The Jews rejected God in rejecting their Messiah. Why do you appeal to apostates as proof against the trinity. Show me godly Jews that rejected the trinity.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 09 2009,07:08)Hi TT, Did you not know the Spirit proceeds from God?The finger of God has all the abilities of the Father.Exactly. Therefore, the finger of God is God. So now you are a binitarian. All that is needed now is for you to see that Jesus also is the “finger” (power) of God (1 Corinthians 1:24).thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 09 2009,07:06)Hi WJ,They knew Jesus was not their God and Jesus confirmed it in Jn8.54.From Ps2 they knew of the son of God and His given kingly authority as God's servant.They served their true father who used them to try to frustrate the plans of God but in doing so fulfilled it.This is the second time you have avoided…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 09 2009,06:35)Hi TT, So Jesus was not the eternal unchanging God.Maths is not much help in speaking of the One God. Your division into three is not a scriptural fact at all.Read Isaiah 48:12-16. It says that the Creator(1) is sent by the Lord God(2) AND His Spirit(3).Person 1: Creator who was sentPerson 2: Lord GodPerson…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 09 2009,06:43)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 08 2009,14:32)Hi TT, So Jesus is not God. Did you think he was the God worshipped by the Jews?NHIf the Jews knew the God they claimed to worship, why did they crucify the Lord from heaven?WJYes WJ,The Jews did not worship God. Otherwise they would have accepted Christ. TO NICK:…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 09 2009,06:30)Hi WJ, Yes is not the Spirit of God amazing? But should you teach from your implications?See WJ,Gene agrees with a lot of what you said and Nick can't even make a coherent criticism.Again, well done!   thinker

TO WJ:Thanks for all the info on the personality of the Spirit. The points are indisputable and even Gene agrees with some of it. thanks,Jack

Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ Sep. 08 2009,21:15)satan was already cast into a lake of fire? who told you this? he will be in the end, and all who reject Christ:p   The book of Revelation declares that satan has been cast into the lake of fire. Jesus also said that satan's judgment was “now.”thinker