Jodi lee said;Quote You could not be MORE incorrect. Jesus BECAME a High Priest and advocate through his sacrifice on the cross. BEFORE Christ there were continual sacrifices made by priests acting as ADVOCATES for the people unto God.First, Job said that His advocate is “NOW in heaven.” Second, Job had no reathly priest to advocate for him…[Read more]

Kathi said:Quote So, from this above quoted post we see that not all trinitarians agree with everything in the trinity doctrine.I am glad you see it. That's why I posted it. The Arians break down into even more sects. Right? Kathi:Quote Also, that Thinker believes that the “eternal word” (which is an oxymoron btw since a word has an origin as does…[Read more]

Alec Motyer on the Messenger of the Lord:Quote Exodus describes Moses' encounter with God as the angel of the LORD appearing to him. When we look at the other references to 'the Angel of the LORD' or 'the Angel of God', we find that he is someone very special indeed. A. B. Davidson put it this way: 'This Angel is not a created angel–He is Jehovah…[Read more]

Jodi Lee wrote:Quote Ephesians 3:4 by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ), 5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: 6 that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise…[Read more]

Jodi Lee said:Quote Seriously ridiculous. The WHOLE debate is over the word THROUGH, it is clearly shown from the Lexicon that the word can also represent BECAUSE OF! The dictionary and Thesaurus also show that the word through can mean BECAUSE OF.Jodi,It is you who is being ridiculous. Now you're saying that Paul said that “all things were made be…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Oct. 05 2009,17:40)Returning to the main question of the thread, “Who was Job's Advocate”, scripture in Job mentions nothing about a god son or a pre-existent Jesus. Job 16:16 My face is foul with weeping, And on mine eyelids death-shade.17 Not for violence in my hands, And my prayer pure. 18 O earth, do not thou cover my…[Read more]

Jodi Lee said::Quote If Jesus WERE in FACT YHWH, it would not say that he was a messenger OF YHWH. There would be NO MESSENGER OF YHWH, there would be JUST YHWH!!Unless that Messenger shares YHWH's name. Remember when Moses asked the Messenger what His name was and the Messenger replied, “I am that I am?”The Messenger said His name is YHWH:Quote 13…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2009,18:41)Hi TT, You are an acknowledged leader among trinity evolutionists here.Jesus obeyed the OT law perfectly in the eyes of the One Who justifies.Found clean he was anointed and filled with the Spirit of God that we might find justification too in him.

Quote (georg @ Oct. 06 2009,13:08)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 06 2009,12:52)CA said:Quote TT,I'm a bit surprised that you read into this text (2 Cor 3:7-18) something that is not there.But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 06 2009,16:06)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 06 2009,12:36)Quote (942767 @ Oct. 06 2009,09:21)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 03 2009,12:20)Marty said:Quote Does God have to be justified in the Spirit?A sinless man does not have to be justified in the spirit. Jesus was a sinless man. Therefore, He didn't have to be justified in the…[Read more]

Quote (CatholicApologist @ Oct. 06 2009,13:50)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 06 2009,12:52)CA said:Quote TT,I'm a bit surprised that you read into this text (2 Cor 3:7-18) something that is not there.But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2009,13:17)Hi tt, But you confuse logic with divine wisdom. Does that mean you can judge those who prefer God's Word?You judge the author of Hebrews. He said that Christ is the AUTHOR of eternal salvation.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2009,12:40)Hi TT,You quoted the Word of God then judged it.Why do you think you are above scripture?No Nick,I did not judge Paul. I challenged t8's misuse of the scripture. I checked the Greek and the word “in” means “by agency of.” “God was by agency of the Christ reconciling the world unto Himself.”This means that…[Read more]

CA said:Quote TT,I'm a bit surprised that you read into this text (2 Cor 3:7-18) something that is not there.But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.”we all”…St. Paul is including himself.  “being transformed”…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 06 2009,09:21)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 03 2009,12:20)Marty said:Quote Does God have to be justified in the Spirit?A sinless man does not have to be justified in the spirit. Jesus was a sinless man. Therefore, He didn't have to be justified in the spirit.Think it through Marty. Jesus needed to be justified in the spirit because…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2009,11:10)Hi TT, You find fault with the Spirit of God speaking through Paul?Just like BD . Do you think it is wise to speak against the Spirit of God?If find fault with the spirit of t8 concerning Paul's words. Paul did not infer that Christ was dispensible in salvation as t8 suggests.thinker

t8 said;Quote 2 Corinthians 5:18-1918 Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation,19 namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself…In other words, Christ is not really our Savior but the Father alone. Christ really did not carry his own torture stake…[Read more]

t8 said;Quote Sure test teachings etc, but all that labeling and false name calling should stop.Does that go for Nick too?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 06 2009,09:47)Hi Is 1.18, The false doctrine is clung to by most who think they follow Jesus. But he never taught it so who are they following?Who was the Father talking about when He said, “Your throne O God is forever and ever” (Hebrews 1:8). The Father was not speaking to Himself or about Himself.thinker

Hi Jodi Lee,I will reply to you tomorrow. thinker