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[K2marsh]

Hi Nick Hassan and all,

Romans 2:14
for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
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Galatians 2:13-15 (New King James Version)
13 And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.

WHY DO YOU COMPEL GENTLES TO LIVE AS JEWS?
14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you[a] compel Gentiles to live as Jews?
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The Jews did not sin, because they loved God, and their neighbor. That is they did all the things that were in the Ten Commandments.
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See Romans 2:14 above. JEWS BY NATURE, AND NOT SINNERS
15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

NOT JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW
16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
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If you believe in Jesus you will love your neighbor and keep the commandments.
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IF WE DON’T LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AND KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS WE ARE FOUND TO BE A SINNER
17 “But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ therefore a minister of sin? Certainly not!

WE ARE TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR AND, NOT RETURN TO SIN
18 For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

BEING BORN AGAIN AND THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT LOVE FOR YOUR NEIGHBOR DEVELOPES

THE OLD MAN DIES AND, AND ACTION REACTION IS OVERCOME
19 For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God.

NOW WE ARE TO LIVE FOR CHRIST
20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

WE ARE TO HAVE MERCY OR GRACE FOR OUR NEIGHBOR. NOT AN EYE FOR AN EYE BY THE LAW.
21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.”
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LIKE I SAID BEFORE:
How Not to be Under The Law of Moses, but under the Law of Mercy
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Resist not evil – turn the other cheek
Matthew 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Matthew 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Do good to them that hate you
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YOU ARE RIGHT. WE DON’T KEEP THE LAW
WE DO BETTER THAN THAT. WE ARE TO RETURN GOOD FOR EVIL.
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Karyl
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[K2marsh]

Hi Nick Hassan and all,

I answered your questions. You did not answer mine.

SO BEING A GENTILE YOU DON’T THINK YOU ARE UNDER THE LAW THAT BRINGS WRATH

If what you say is true kill someone, and see what happens. You will be a transgressor of the law. An eye for an eye. YOU WILL BE JUDGED UNDER THE LAW. An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.
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WHAT DO YOU THINK? DON’T YOU THINK THAT A GENTILE WILL BE JUDGED UNDER THE LAW???
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Jesus fulfilled the law.
Galatians 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Luke 24:44
Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.”

Now we are to fulfill the law
Romans 13:8
Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.

Proverbs 10:12
Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all sins.
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NOT UNDER THE LAW OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid:

Matthew 5: 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
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Tell me what you think the three above Scriptures mean.

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So through tradition your forefathers taught you that Gentiles are not under the Ten Commandments law of an eye for an eye. As you do is as you receive.

If a Gentile murdered someone do you think that he would be saved from the law an eye for an eye by grace??

What the Scripture says:
1 John 3:15
Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

Karyl
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[K2marsh]

Hi Nick Hassan and all,

You believe we receive complete forgiveness when we are saved. IF YOU ARE SAVED.
That is if you have truly repented, and have received the Holy Spirit, and been born again.

So you are forgiven of PAST SINS :

AS YOU DO IS AS YOU RECEIVE UNDER THE LAW
Matthew 6:14-16 (New King James Version)
14 “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
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YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE GIVEN THE LAW TO BE UNDER THE LAW.
THE LAW IS FOR THE UNRIGHTOUS.
Romans 2:14
(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law,
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Even though the Gentiles did not have the law they kept the law. By nature they love their neighbor. The law brings wrath and the Gentiles learned that when you smile you receive a smile, and when you frown you receive a frown. They learned through nature to smile, and love their neighbor.

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SO BEING A GENTILE YOU DON’T THINK YOU ARE UNDER THE LAW THAT BRINGS WRATH

If what you say is true kill someone, and see what happens. You will be a transgressor of the law. An eye for an eye. YOU WILL BE JUDGED UNDER THE LAW. An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.

I really don’t think you know what keeping the law is. Everything in the Ten Commandments is covered with loving God and your neighbor. Now tell me why you don’t want to this.
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Jesus kept the ten commandments law of Moses. Jesus was not UNDER the law, and we are not supposed to be under the law of Moses. To fulfill the law you must love your neighbor as your self. You keep the law because you love your neighbor. That is you don’t lie, steal and do things that would hurt your neighbor.

If you do you are a lawbreaker and you are UNDER the law.

The law is from the foundation of the world.
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Matthew 7:23
And then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
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The difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. The people that do not keep the Ten Commandments have not entered in to the New Covenant.
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THE LAW WAS MADE FOR THE UNRIGHTOUS
Whoever they be. Jews and Gentiles.
If you break the law you are under the law.

WE SHALL BE SAVED FROM WRATH THROUGH HIM
Romans 5: 8, 9
8But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.

The law brings wrath. When you hit someone you expect to get hit back. Mercy stops action reaction. Love covers all sin.

Jesus said if you love me you will keep my commandments. If you don’t keep his commandments, and love your neighbor you are under the law, and the law brings justice. Some one will be mad at you and condemn you. You will be judged.

Karyl
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[K2marsh]

Hi Nick Hassan and all,

Galatians 5:18
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
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So to be led of the Spirit you are not UNDER the law, but if you love your neighbor you keep the law. Being not under the law is to not respond to action reaction any more. The law brings wrath, and you no longer respond to wrath. If you have received the Holy Spirit and become perfect and you don't break the law you are not under the law.

OTHERWISE YOU ARE A LAWBREAKER

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FOR REMISSION OF SINS THAT ARE PAST
Romans 3:25
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

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Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
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Keeping the Law and being Under the Law is two different things.

We keep the law because we love our neighbor. We don’t murder, lie, steal, etc. That is because we have love for other people.

We are not Under the law when we fulfill the law.
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1 Timothy 1
8But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, 9knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,

IF YOU BRAKE ANY LAW LISTED ABOVE YOU HAVE TRANSGRESSED THE LAW.
THEN YOU BECOME GUILTY OF TRANSGRESSING THE WHOLE LAW.

Yes the law is still around.

Romans 7:1
Or do you not know, brethren (for I speak to those who know the law), that the law has dominion over a man as long as he lives?

The law covers the Old Testament and the New Testament. It’s made for the unrighteous.
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Karyl

[K2marsh]

Hi Nick Hassan, and all,

You ask are you saved.

IT'S APPOINTED FOR MEN TO DIE ONCE
AFTER THIS THE JUDGMENT
You Must Be Born Again
I have been judged while standing  looking at hell that covered the whole horizon. I was asked if I would die. I thought it meant to die in the body, not the ego or old man. It may mean both, but I know that the ego dies, and you are born again in Spirit.

Jesus will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,
28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

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After being judged and directed in the right direction I would say I am saved. There is a lot of meanings for saved. If you mean saved from hell I was.
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Are all people temples of the Holy Spirit.
That I don’t know for sure.
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NKJV
2 Corinthians 11
2 For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
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Through the child of Eve whose father was the serpent man now has a fleshly body. Before that man had a Spiritual body.

Now some people are Spiritual and others are mixed.
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John 8:44
You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

John 17:9
“I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.
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I don’t know if the people that are of the devil have the temple of God within themselves.

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We are made in God’s Spiritual image. Not the fleshly image of the devil.
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Give me the Scripture that says the body dies in baptism.
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Washing of regeneration

Titus 3:5   Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but
according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and
renewing of the Holy Ghost;
    6   Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our
Saviour;
    7   That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs
according to the hope of eternal life.
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Our Spirit is regenerated.  The Spirit lives, it does not die.
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Romans 6: 6   Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that
the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve
sin.
7   For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8   Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
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THE BODY WITHOUT THE SPIRIT IS DEAD
James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without
works is dead also.
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When you are born again in Spirit the body is dead. That is because you are out of body. When you are out of body the body is dead.

You could be born again when you are baptized, but I would say that only a few are born again in Spirit then.

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I moved into a house and a demon was in the house. It would make you hair stand up. A horrible experience. It was too powerful to be a ghost. It took a while to have it leave the house.
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You ask a lot of questions……
Karyl

[K2marsh]

Hi Nick Hassan and all,

YOU ARE GODS, this is what Jesus said.  That makes us Gods.
Not Jesus only, but YOU are Gods.
John 10:
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, “I said, “You are gods”'?[2] 35If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),

WE ARE MADE IN GODS IMAGE, GOD IS SPIRIT
GOD SAID “LET US”.
Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[1:26 Syriac reads [all the wild animals of.] ] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
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God is over all, but we are Gods made in God's Spiritual image. We are to become sons of God in Spirit.
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The old man must die. When we are dead and our spirit is reborn we are not in the body, but spirit. We are the temple of God so our spirit dwells within us when we are not out of our body in spirit. Then in the final resurrection we will live Christ.

Romans 6:5-9 (New King James Version)
5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin. 8 Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him.
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Joel 2:28
[ God's Spirit Poured Out ] “And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions.
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How do you come by the notion that these are demonic spirits???

I think you are missing something. Christianity is Spiritual.

Living for the Devil  is done in Spirit.

We are to choose this day who we will serve. Choosing the Lord you worship God. God is Spirit. The only way you can worship God is in Spirit and truth.
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2 Corinthians 12:1-3
1 It is doubtless[a] not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord: 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago–whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows–such a one was caught up to the third heaven. 3And I know such a man–whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows–
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Karyl
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[K2marsh]

Hi Nick Hassan, and All,

Jesus will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. Then you will be judged as I was. You must be born again.

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,
28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

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John the Baptist did not remember his past life as you don’t remember your past life. Past lives are only remembered in little experiences.

Now tell me about what you remember of this life. Only experiences here and there.

Karyl

[K2marsh]

Hi Nick Hassan and all,

WE ARE MADE IN GODS IMAGE, GOD IS SPIRIT
GOD SAID “LET US”.
Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[1:26 Syriac reads [all the wild animals of.] ] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
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God is over all, but we are Gods made in God's Spiritual image. We are to become sons of God in Spirit.
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MAN HAS BECOME AS ONE OF US
Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
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All men were created in Gods image in the garden of Eden.
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BAPTISM
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FIRST YOU MUST REPENT
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

BELIEVE ON CHRIST JESUS
Acts 19:4
Then Paul said, “John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.”

Water baptism is a cleansings of the body. Under the acts of cleanness.
As above so on earth. A cleaning of the physical body as well as the Spiritual body. We are to believe on Christ Jesus to be saved.

WE ARE TO ASK TO BE GIVEN LIVING WATER
John 4:10
Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, “Give Me a drink,' you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”

JESUS BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT
Acts 1:5
for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
Being baptized in water is so that on earth the Church will accept you that you commune and have fellowship with them. A cleansing of the body.

Being baptized by the Holy Spirit is being baptized to receive eternal life. The Old Man dies and you are reborn in Spirit. Then you can see yourself before you.

WHEN PAUL LAID HANDS NO THEM, THE HOLY SPIRIT CAME UPON THEM
IT DOES MATTER WHO YOU ARE BAPTIZED BY
Acts 19
5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul had laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with tongues
and prophesied. 7Now the men were about twelve in all.

HOW ARE WE SAVED???
Water baptism does not save you. It’s just a beginning.

We are saved by washing of regeneration

Titus 3:5   Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but
according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and
renewing of the Holy Ghost;
    6   Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our
Saviour;
    7   That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs
according to the hope of eternal life.
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Thoughts come up and are gone over. Made right and put back down again.
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OUR SPIRIT IS BORN
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You Must Be Born Again

Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into The KINGDOM of God.
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NICODEMUS SAID
John 3:4   Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is
old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5   Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be
Born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the
Spirit is spirit.

Jesus said:  That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. What was
born????
SPIRIT.

When the old man dies the body is dead. Now his Spirit has been born
again. Spirit never dies.

Man has Body, Soul, Spirit. When you are born you have a fleshly body.
When you are born of Spirit you have  a  Spirit body. The Scripture is
saying your first birth is fleshly. the second birth is Spiritual.
The second birth wouldn't you say is born again a second time?
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Romans 6: 6   Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that
the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve
sin.
7   For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8   Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
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The seed must die before it is reborn.
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THE BODY WITHOUT THE SPIRIT IS DEAD
James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without
works is dead also.

Galatians 6:8   For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap
corruption;  but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
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This is the reborn Spirit.

WHEN BEING BORN AGAIN CHRIST IS FORMED IN YOU
Galatians 4:19   My little children, of whom I travail in birth again
Until Christ be formed in you,

Yes the rebirth is painful.

Romans 7:4   Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the
law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to
him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto
God.
5   For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law,
did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6   But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we
were held; that we should servein newness of spirit, and not in the
oldness of the letter.
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To be born again the old man must die. When you are born again it's
your spirit that is born. Then you can see your spirit before you. You
become psychic. You can feel what other people feel. That is one reason
why that you don't hurt your neighbor. When your neighbor is in pain you can
feel their pain, and it can be very painful.
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Romans 8:8   So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9……Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

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YOUR DREAM WORLD
Genesis 40:8
And they said to him, “We each have had a dream, and there is no interpreter of it.” So Joseph said to them, “Do not interpretations belong to God? Tell them to me, please.”

Being in Spirit may not be what you call a dream, but I don’t know how you can separate the two.
When the mind is active you can not  see things that are of the Spirit. When you mind is passive then you can see visions, and dreams.

Karyl
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[K2marsh]

Hi iB and all,

I'm glad to see that you agree with the Scriptures. If you agree that we are Gods then you must be ready to go on from there. The following is a little long, but necessary.

ENTERING THE KINGDOM OF GOD (WHILE LIVING)

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DIE TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD

EVERYONE has been taught the precepts of man, and that you must die to enter the kingdom of God. That is not what Jesus taught.

Jesus preached the kingdom of God.
Why would Jesus say to seek the kingdom of God if you can’t enter the kingdom while you are alive?
People are taught that you either go to heaven or hell when you die. You don’t have to die to go to heaven or hell. The kingdom of God is within yourself.

Matthew 6:33
But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

JESUS SAID THE PHARISEES DO NOT ENTER IN TO THE KINGODM OF GOD
Matthew 23:13
But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, pretenders (hypocrites)! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces; for you neither enter yourselves, nor do you allow those who are about to go in to do so.

Galatians 6:8   For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap
corruption;  but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap
Life everlasting.

This is the reborn Spirit.

WHEN BEING BORN AGAIN CHRIST IS FORMED IN YOU

Galatians 4:19   My little children, of whom I travail in birth again
Until Christ be formed in you,

WHY WOULD JESUS TELL YOU THIS IF YOU COULD NOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD WHILE ALIVE? WE ARE TO SEEK THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
Matthew 13
The Parable of the Hidden Treasure
44 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and hid; and for joy over it he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.

The Parable of the Pearl of Great Price
45 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant seeking beautiful pearls, 46who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had and bought it.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU. THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE TO SEEK TO FIND THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Luke 17
21 nor will they say, “See here!' or “See there!'  For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN IN SPIRIT

John 3
2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he
cannot enter the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Do not marvel that I said to you, “You must be born again.'

WHAT WAS BORN???  YOUR SPIRIT….

THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS IN YOUR DREAM WORLD WHILE YOU ARE IN SPIRIT.
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THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN WORSHIP GOD…..
IS IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH FOR GOD IS SPIRIT

People go to church and come home having never worshiped God. In fact they could not even get a prayer in edgewise, let alone worship God in Spirit.
YOU MUST BE  BORN AGAIN

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye; if, therefore, thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
The third eye is the single eye that Jesus referred to. Seeing with a Spiritual eye.
Luke17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Luke 13:20 And again he said, Whereunto shall I liken the kingdom of God? 21 It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

As you meditate in Spirit and in truth , and as you worship God in the place he selects a door opens from place to place until the whole body is filled with the light of the eye.
        (The whole was leavened).
The apple that was divided will eventually be joined together again and you will be of one mind.

POSITIVE SPIRIT
Positive spirit is visible to other people, and can speak to them.
Positive spirit can pick up things, and has a body like the person that is doing the mediation. Positive spirit has eternal life and is beyond birth and death.

NEGATIVE SPIRIT
Negative spirit visible to the person in meditation when he closes his eyes. Negative spirit can see others, but is invisible to them, and cannot speak to them or pick up objects. Negative spirit is mortal.

You may have entered into negative spirit in your dreams at times. Perhaps you could see people but they could not see you. Negative spirit is mortal.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

THE KINGODM OF GOD IS HERE NOW… BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD…WE JUST HAVE TO ENTER INTO THE KINGODM
Matthew 12:28
But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out the demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you [[Marvin Vincent, Word Studies.] before you expected it].

THIS IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE KINGDOM
THE EVIL ONE SNATCHES IT AWAY.
Matthew 13:19
[Marvin Vincent, Word Studies.] While anyone is hearing the Word of the kingdom and does not grasp and comprehend it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is what was sown along the roadside.

THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WITHIN YOURSELF GROWS
Matthew 13
31Another story by way of comparison He set forth before them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field.
32Of all the seeds it is the smallest, but when it has grown it is the largest of the garden herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and find shelter in its branches.

LITTLE CHILDREN ARE IN THE DREAM WORLD, AND ARE WITH OUT LUST.
Mark 10:14
But when Jesus saw [it], He was indignant and [A.T. Robertson, Word Pictures.] pained and said to them, Allow the children to come to Me–do not forbid or prevent or hinder them–for to such belongs the kingdom of God.

WE ARE TO ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM AS LITTLE CHILDREN DO
Mark 10:15
Truly I tell you, whoever does not receive and accept and welcome the kingdom of God like a little child [does] positively shall not enter it at all.

YOU ARE NOT FAR FROM THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
THIS IS NOT SAYING HE IS GOING TO DIE.
Mark 12:34
And when Jesus saw that he answered intelligently (discreetly and [Marvin Vincent, Word Studies.] having his wits about him), He said to him, You are not far from the kingdom of God. And after that no one ventured or dared to ask Him any further question.

JESUS WAS SENT TO PREACH THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTED IN THE EARTHLY CHURCH AND BEING IN CONTROL OF OTHER PEOPLE THAN IN THE SPIRITUAL KINGDOM OF GOD.
Luke 4:43
But He said to them, I must preach the good news (the Gospel) of the kingdom of God to the other cities [and towns] also, for I was sent for this [purpose].

THEY DIDN’T DIE BUT THEY HAVE COME CLOSE TO THE KINGDOM
Luke 10
8Whenever you go into a town and they receive and accept and welcome you, eat what is set before you;
9And heal the sick in it and say to them, The kingdom of God has come close to you.

YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN IN SPIRIT OR YOU CAN NOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD. THE SPIRIT WORLD
John 3:3
Jesus answered him, I assure you, most so
lemnly I tell you, that unless a person is born again (anew, from above), he cannot ever see (know, be acquainted with, and experience) the kingdom of God.

John 3:5
Jesus answered, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, unless a man is born of water and [[The Greek “kai” (“and”) may be rendered “even.”] even] the Spirit, he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God.[

JESUS’ KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD… IT’S A SPIRITUAL KINGDOM
John 18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom (kingship, royal power) belongs not to this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My followers would have been fighting to keep Me from being handed over to the Jews. But as it is, My kingdom is not from here (this world); [it has no such origin or source].
1 Corinthians 4:20
For the kingdom of God consists of and is based on not talk but power ([Joseph Thayer, A Greek-English Lexicon.] moral power and excellence of soul).

THE OLD MAN MUST DIE AND YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN IN SPIRIT
1 Corinthians 15:50
But I tell you this, brethren, flesh and blood cannot [become partakers of eternal salvation and] inherit or share in the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable (that which is decaying) inherit or share in the imperishable (the immortal).

Karyl
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[K2marsh]

Hi everyone,

WE ARE TO KEEP THE LAW, BUT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED
TO BE UNDER THE LAW

Ephesians 2 was written by Paul. If the Ten Commandments Law was abolished why would Paul say “God forbid: yea, we establish the law“.

Romans 3: 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Don’t you think it strange that no one told Paul that the law was done away?

Jesus is our sacrifice for sin, but the Law is not abolished.
The Ten Commandments Given to Moses by God.
Nothing has changed. They were all brought over in the New Testament.
Tell me which of the laws below do you think makes you justified by the law if you keep them and don't murder your neighbor, or lie to your neighbor? The laws are all in the Ten Commandments.
Yes we keep the law.
**
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
**
Under the law of Christ. You are to turn the other cheek and show mercy. Mercy stops action reaction. If you do not turn the other cheek you do not love your neighbor. We are to return good for evil. The difference in the law of Moses and the Law of Christ is MERCY!!!
As God is merciful we are to be merciful. This is the mercy of the New Covenant. The mercy you give is the mercy you receive. Jesus is our example that we are to follow, and take up our cross daily and follow him. When you give mercy you are not under the law. That is because you love your neighbor as yourself.
*
Matthew 5: 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
**
Sin is anything that hurts you or your neighbor in any way. A harsh word. Hurting your neighbor, or what you eat.
If you think you are not under the law stand up!!!
*** 
Matthew 5:18
For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

GalatiaJesus fulfilled the law.
ns 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Luke 24:44
Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.”

Now we are to fulfill the law
Romans 13:8
Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.

The Law of Moses
Through lack of understanding of the law your forefathers decided that we are not under the law. Through tradition this has been taught generation after generation.
If you hurt your neighbor you are under the law, and they will seek justice.

Jesus said:
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he
shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The Law and Mercy

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
What commandments? The Ten Commandments given to Moses by God.
Just what law are they under then if not the law of Moses? Christians are to keep all of the Ten Commandments. There is no other law. The law is written in the cosmos. Including the Sabbath day of rest. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. The seventh day of rest was from the foundation of the world when God rested on the seventh day.

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
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The law brings wrath. When you hit some one you expect to get hit back. The Gentiles learned through experience, and kept the law even though they were not under the law.

The law is good…Not made for a righteous man

1 Timothy 1:8-10 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners,for unholy a profane, for murderers of  fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is
contrary to sound doctrine;
If you sin and do evil you are under the law. If you lie you will be judged for your lie. As you do is as you will receive. For good or evil. An eye for an eye.
Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Galatians 5:16-25 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

This is amazing. When you meditate in the Spirit all the lusts are gone. If you are led of the Spirit you can return good for evil. Then you can turn the other cheek, and not oppose evil.

How Not to be Under The Law of Moses, but under the Law of Mercy

Resist not evil – turn the other cheek
Matthew 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Matthew 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Do good to them that hate you

Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
If you hurt your neighbor you are under the law, and they will seek justice. God works through people.
**
Under the law of Christ. You are to turn the other cheek and show mercy. Mercy stops action reaction. If you do not turn the other cheek you do not love your neighbor. We are to return good for evil. The difference in the law of Moses and the Law of Christ is MERCY!!!
As God is merciful we are to be merciful. This is the mercy of the New Covenant. The mercy you give is the mercy you receive. Jesus is our example that we are to follow, and take up our cross daily and follow him. When you give mercy you are not under the law. That is because you love your neighbor as yourself.
*
You are not supposed to be under the Ten Commandments Law of Moses, but you keep the law because you love your neighbor as yourself.  We are not supposed to be under the law, an eye for an
eye and a tooth for a tooth. We are supposed to be under the law of mercy. The mercy you give is the mercy you receive.
That is keeping the law, but not being under the law. You give mercy because you love your neighbor as yourself. Why do you suppose it's called the New Covenant of Mercy? Your mercy that you give as you take up your
cross and follow Jesus. If you do not love your neighbor and offend someone you are under the law and justice will be done. The law was made for the unrightous.

Ephesians 6:8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.

Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had  not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
If you break the commandments given by God to Moses you are under the law
 While you are in the flesh you will return evil for evil. Even though you want to do good you will do evil. Read: Romans 7:15

For example when you try saying something nice about a person that has offended you, you return a nasty remark to them. If you are walking in the Spirit you are not under the law.
You keep the law because you love your neighbor as your self. That is you do not lie, steal, etc. from your neighbor. If you are walking in the Spirit and not the flesh, you are not under the law. When the body is dead you can return good for evil. You do not react to action reaction any more. You can turn the other cheek. You are to overcome evil with good.

How to find out if you are under the law. If someone steals from you does that make you mad?
Or do you ask the person that stole from you how you could help him?
If you become mad at the person you do not love your neighbor as yourself. Therefore you are a lawbreaker, and you are under the law of justice. An eye for an eye.

Regards, Karyl

[K2marsh]

Hi IB and All,

THERE IS ONE GOD OVER ALL,  (AND IN YOU)
Ephesians 4:6
one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you

Like I said there is ONE God over all. For us there is one God the Father who created all things through Jesus the Christ.

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No we are not Idles made with hands and Jesus is not an Idle either. We are Gods made in Gods Image. God is Spirit.

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We are made in God’s Image.
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You Must Be Born Again

Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into
The KINGDOM of God.
—-
Baptized in living water that comes down form above.
—-
John 4:13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this
water shall thirst again:
14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never
thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Washing of regeneration

Titus 3:5   Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but
according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and
renewing of the Holy Ghost;
    6   Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our
Saviour;
    7   That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs
according to the hope of eternal life.

NICODEMUS SAID
John 3:4   Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is
old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5   Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be
Born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the
Spirit is spirit.

Jesus said:  That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. What was
born????
SPIRIT.
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Karyl
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[K2marsh]

Hi
God works through people and his creation.

THERE IS ONE GOD OVER ALL,  (AND IN YOU)
Ephesians 4:6
one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you
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YOU ARE GODS, this is what Jesus said.
Not Jesus only, but YOU are Gods.
John 10:
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, “I said, “You are gods”'?[2] 35If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
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JESUS IS GOD
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and
my God!”
29 Jesus said to him, “Thomas,[1] because you have
seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have
 not seen and yet have believed.”

Take note this was after the death of Jesus. Jesus was in Spirit.
Jesus did not tell Thomas that he was not God. God made man in his image. God is Spirit and when we return to God we will be in Spirit and become a part of God. The Scriptures say that ye are Gods.
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Jesus said I and the Father are one.
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WE ARE MADE IN GODS IMAGE, GOD IS SPIRIT
GOD SAID “LET US”.
Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[1:26 Syriac reads [all the wild animals of.] ] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
——–
God is over all, but we are Gods made in God's Spiritual image. We are to become sons of God in Spirit.
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MAN HAS BECOME AS ONE OF US
Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD THESE ARE SONS OF GOD
Romans 8:
13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”
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Karyl
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[K2marsh]

Hi TS and List,

You need to reread my post.

THERE IS ONE GOD OVER ALL,  (AND IN YOU)
Ephesians 4:6
one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you
==================
YOU ARE GODS, this is what Jesus said.
Not Jesus only, but YOU are Gods.
John 10:
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, “I said, “You are gods”'?[2] 35If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
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JESUS IS GOD
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and
my God!”
29 Jesus said to him, “Thomas,[1] because you have
seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have
 not seen and yet have believed.”

Take note this was after the death of Jesus. Jesus was in Spirit.
Jesus did not tell Thomas that he was not God. God made man in his image. God is Spirit and when we return to God we will be in Spirit and become a part of God. The Scriptures say that ye are Gods.
==================
Jesus said I and the Father are one.
—
WE ARE MADE IN GODS IMAGE, GOD IS SPIRIT
GOD SAID “LET US”.
Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[1:26 Syriac reads [all the wild animals of.] ] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
——–
God is over all, but we are Gods made in God's Spiritual image. We are to become sons of God in Spirit.
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MAN HAS BECOME AS ONE OF US
Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD THESE ARE SONS OF GOD
Romans 8:
13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”
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Karyl
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[K2marsh]

JESUS IS GOD AND THE SON OF GOD AND WE ARE GODS

1 Co 11:3 “But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.”
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FOR THE TRINITY BELIEVERS:
THE WORD TRINITY IS NOT IN THE BIBLE.
THE WORD TRINITY MEAN EQUAL
 Mark 10:18 So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me
good? No one is good but One, that is, God.
—
This Scripture is saying that they are not all equal.
Therefore trinity as a joint affair is not correct.
—
Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary
the (Holy) Trinity noun LITERARY
in Christianity, the existence of one God in three forms, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit
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FOR THE ONE GOD BELIEVERS:
JESUS IS GOD.
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and
my God!”
29 Jesus said to him, “Thomas,[1] because you have
seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have
 not seen and yet have believed.”

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Other people believe that God is One but they believe in the Godhead.

The word “Godhead” does NOT exist in either the Hebrew, or Greek Scripture.

GODHEAD CORRECTION: (Divine Nature).
New King James Version
Acts 17: 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man's devising.

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JESUS SAID YE ARE GODS
John 10:35 If he called them “gods” unto whom the word
of God came and the scripture cannot be broken;
John 10:
Renewed Efforts to Stone Jesus
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
33The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
34Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, “I said, “You are gods”'?[3] 35If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, “You are blaspheming,' because I said, “I am the Son of God'?

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TRINITY BELIEVERS:
Matthew 28:19
Go therefore[28:19 M-Text omits [therefore.] ] and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

FATHER: God the creator that created all things.

JESUS: The Son of God. God created the world through Jesus.

GOD IS SPIRIT:  THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD
God’s Spirit appeared as a dove when Jesus was baptized.

HOLY SPIRIT OF JESUS
John 7:39
(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

A MEDIATOR IS NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, BUT GOD IS ONE
Galatians 3: 19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

DO BELIEVERS OF THE TRINITY WORSHIP ALL THE MEDIATORS?

———————-
John 1
The Eternal Word
Testimony of John the Baptist
(1) 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

This is saying that the Word was God. Not that Jesus is God.

WE ARE TO BECOME SONS OF GOD
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Karyl
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[K2marsh]

We Keep The Law, But We Are Not Supposed To Be Under The Law

Jesus is our sacrifice for sin, but the Law is not abolished.
The Ten Commandments Given to Moses by God.
Nothing has changed. They were all brought over in the New Testament.
Tell me which of the laws below do you think makes you justified by the law if you keep them and don't murder your neighbor, or lie to your neighbor? The laws are all in the Ten Commandments.
Yes we keep the law.
**
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
**
Under the law of Christ. You are to turn the other cheek and show mercy. Mercy stops action reaction. If you do not turn the other cheek you do not love your neighbor. We are to return good for evil. The difference in the law of Moses and the Law of Christ is MERCY!!!
As God is merciful we are to be merciful. This is the mercy of the New Covenant. The mercy you give is the mercy you receive. Jesus is our example that we are to follow, and take up our cross daily and follow him. When you give mercy you are not under the law. That is because you love your neighbor as yourself.
*
You are not supposed to be under the Ten Commandments Law of Moses, but you keep the law because you love your neighbor as yourself.  We are not supposed to be under the law, an eye for an  eye and a tooth for a tooth. We are supposed to be under the law of mercy. The mercy you give is the mercy you receive.
That is keeping the law, but not being under the law. You give mercy because you love your neighbor as yourself. Why do you suppose it's called the New Covenant of Mercy? Your mercy that you give as you take up your cross and follow Jesus. If you do not love your neighbor and offend someone you are under the law and justice will be done. The law was made for the unrighteous.
**
Matthew 5: 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
**
Sin is anything that hurts you or your neighbor in any way. A harsh word. Hurting your neighbor, or what you eat.
If you think you are not under the law stand up!!!
*** 
Matthew 5:18
For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

GalatiaJesus fulfilled the law.
ns 5:14
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Luke 24:44
Then He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.”

Now we are to fulfill the law
Romans 13:8
Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law.

The Law of Moses
Through lack of understanding of the law your forefathers decided that we are not under the law. Through tradition this has been taught generation after generation.
If you hurt your neighbor you are under the law, and they will seek justice.
Jesus said:

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he
shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The Law and Mercy

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
What commandments? The Ten Commandments given to Moses by God.
Just what law are they under then if not the law of Moses? Christians are to keep all of the Ten Commandments. There is no other law. The law is written in the cosmos. Including the Sabbath day of rest. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. The seventh day of rest was from the foundation of the world when God rested on the seventh day.

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
The law brings wrath. When you hit some one you expect to get hit back. The Gentiles learned through experience, and kept the law even though they were not under the law.

The law is good…Not made for a righteous man

1 Timothy 1:8-10 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners,for unholy a profane, for murderers of  fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is
contrary to sound doctrine;
If you sin and do evil you are under the law. If you lie you will be judged for your lie. As you do is as you will receive. For good or evil. An eye for an eye.
Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Galatians 5:16-25 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

This is amazing. When you meditate in the Spirit all the lusts are gone. If you are led of the Spirit you can return good for evil. Then you can turn the other cheek, and not oppose evil.

How Not to be Under The Law of Moses, but under the Law of Mercy

Resist not evil – turn the other cheek
Matthew 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Matthew 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Do good to them that hate you

Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
If you hurt your neighbor you are under the law, and they will seek justice. God works through people.
**
Under the law of Christ. You are to turn the other cheek and show mercy. Mercy stops action reaction. If you do not turn the other cheek you do not love your neighbor. We are to return good for evil. The difference in the law of Moses and the Law of Christ is MERCY!!!
As God is merciful we are to be merciful. This is the mercy of the New Covenant. The mercy you give is the mercy you receive. Jesus is our example that we are to follow, and take up our cross daily and follow him. When you give mercy you are not under the law. That is because you love your neighbor as yourself.
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You are not supposed to be under the Ten Commandments Law of Moses, but you keep the law because you love your neighbor as yourself.  We are not supposed to be under the law, an eye for an
eye
and a tooth for a tooth. We are supposed to be under the law of mercy. The mercy you give is the mercy you receive.
That is keeping the law, but not being under the law. You give mercy because you love your neighbor as yourself. Why do you suppose it's called the New Covenant of Mercy? Your mercy that you give as you take up your cross and follow Jesus. If you do not love your neighbor and offend someone you are under the law and justice will be done. The law was made for the unrightous.

Ephesians 6:8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.

Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had  not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
If you break the commandments given by God to Moses you are under the law
 While you are in the flesh you will return evil for evil. Even though you want to do good you will do evil. Read: Romans 7:15

For example when you try saying something nice about a person that has offended you, you return a nasty remark to them. If you are walking in the Spirit you are not under the law.
You keep the law because you love your neighbor as your self. That is you do not lie, steal, etc. from your neighbor. If you are walking in the Spirit and not the flesh, you are not under the law. When the body is dead you can return good for evil. You do not react to action reaction any more. You can turn the other cheek. You are to overcome evil with good.

How to find out if you are under the law. If someone steals from you does that make you mad?
Or do you ask the person that stole from you how you could help him?
If you become mad at the person you do not love your neighbor as yourself. Therefore you are a lawbreaker, and you are under the law of justice. An eye for an eye.

Regards, Karyl

[K2marsh]

Reincarnation, Scriptures
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The Apocrypha of the Old Testament

Wisdom of Solomon 8:19 For I was a witty child, and had a
good spirit.
20 Yea rather, being good, I came into a body undefiled.

King James Version
Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied
until John.
14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for
to come.
15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

   Matthew 17:9 And as they came down from the mountain,
Jesus charged
them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of
man be risen again from the dead.
   10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the
Scribes that Elias must first come?
   11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly
shall first come, and restore all things.
   12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and
they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
   13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them
of John the Baptist.

   Malachi 4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which
I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and
judgments.
   5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the
coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
   6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the
children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

  John 17:  24   Father, I will that they also, whom thou
hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory,
which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of
the world.

Ephesians 1:4   According as he hath chosen us in him before
The foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without
blame before him in love:
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It seems that from the foundation of the world God chose
people. These people go from life time to life time doing the will of God.

Revelation 17
    8   The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and
shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they
that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new
moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh
come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
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And how will this Scripture of Isaiah be fulfilled? People
have lived and died and have not worshiped the Lord.

The law is written on the heart. I feel that from life to
life you learn from mistakes you made, and they are remembered in the
heart.
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2 Timothy 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of
whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
   18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the
Resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

   19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure,
having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one
that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

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How else you explain from the foundation of the world?
The same people live over and over to gain knowledge. Isaiah said: All flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

Every action has a reaction. If you are still under the LAW
of Moses you
have not turned the other cheek, and learned that mercy
stops action reaction.

We are not to resist evil. Mercy stops action re-action.
When you turn
the other cheek that is the end of the matter. Love covers
all sin. Your
LOVE. As many do not believe in turning the other cheek why
would they believe what Jesus said?

Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias,
which was for to come. 15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Many on this list will not receive it, because it was not
what they were taught to believe. People are slow to change.

If you believe in reincarnation it may help you to understand
what some of the Scriptures mean more fully than if you don't. Other than that I don't see where it makes a great deal of difference.

Reincarnation has nothing to do with the final day of
judgment at the end of the world.

Karyl

[K2marsh]

You all will never come to an agreement, because Jesus is God and
the Son of God.

GOD WHO CREATED ALL THINGS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST

Ephesians 3:9
and to make all see what is the fellowship[3:9 NU-Text and M-Text read [stewardship ] (dispensation).] of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ;[ NU-Text omits [through Jesus Christ.
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God is Spirit and God uses his creation to do his will that his plan is fulfilled. God works through people and things that he created.

THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD
1 Co 11:3 “But I would have you know, that the head of
every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the
man; and the head of Christ is god.”

Note the little g in God the Father. The original text does not
have lower case letters.
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THE WORD TRINITY IS NOT IN THE BIBLE.
THE WORD TRINITY MEAN EQUAL
 Mark 10:18 So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me
good? No one is good but One, that is, God.
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This Scripture is saying that they are not all equal.
Therefore trinity as a joint affair is not correct.
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Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary
the (Holy) Trinity noun LITERARY
in Christianity, the existence of one God in three forms, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit
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Lets take a better look at God. God is Spirit. God created the world through Jesus. God descended as a dove when Jesus was baptized. God appeared to Moses in the burning bush.

God is a very powerful.

God is in all things. God is man’s life force. You are the temple of God. Cleve a branch I am there.

Man was made in Gods image. That was in the garden of Eden when man was created.

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JESUS IS GOD
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John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and
my God!”
29 Jesus said to him, “Thomas,[1] because you have
seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have
 not seen and yet have believed.”

Take note this was after the death of Jesus. Jesus was in Spirit.
Jesus did not tell Thomas that he was not God. God made man in his image. God is Spirit and when we return to God we will be in Spirit and become a part of God. The Scriptures say that ye are Gods.

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ONE GOD
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THERE IS ONE GOD AND ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN,
THE MAN CHRIST JESUS
1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and
to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God
and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified
in due time.
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Jesus has shown the way that we are to follow.

THERE IS ONE GOD OVER ALL,  (AND IN YOU)
Ephesians 4:6
one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you

John 1:1-5. “In the beginning was
the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was
in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him; and without Him
was not anything made that was made. In Him was life; and the life was
the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness
comprehended it not.”

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YOU ARE GODS, this is what Jesus said.
Not Jesus only, but YOU are Gods. That is with a capitol G. The original texts do not have lower case letters.

John 10:
Renewed Efforts to Stone Jesus
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 3 Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
33The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
34Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, “I said, “You are gods”'?[2] 35If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, “You are blaspheming,' because I said, “I am the Son of God'?

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WE ARE MADE IN GODS IMAGE, GOD IS SPIRIT
Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[1:26 Syriac reads [all the wild animals of.] ] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
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God is over all, but we are Gods made in God's Spiritual image. We are to become sons of God in Spirit.
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LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD THESE ARE SONS OF GOD
Romans 8:
13 For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”

SONS OF THE LIVING GOD
Romans 9:
26″And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,  “You are not My people,' There they shall be called sons of the living God.”

BECAUSE YOU ARE SONS, GOD
Galatians 4:6
And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!”

THE ABOVE SCRIPTURES SAY WE ARE TO BECOME SONS OF GOD

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Colossians 1
16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.

THE HIM IS GOD
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Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Romans 8:9
But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

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To become a son of God you must be walking in your Spirit, or Ghost. Not the fleshly body.[/B]

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